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BW2/3  +  299473 Fri, 01 Dec 06 09:16 AM

How did you pronounce the following?

Italy= i d le 

Steer=s d ir

I hear 't' sounds like 'd'.

http://www.webster.com/dictionary/steer

http://www.webster.com/dictionary/italy

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Mister Micawber  +  299476 Fri, 01 Dec 06 09:29 AM

Between vowel sounds (Italy), and between vowel and liquids (title, butter), the letter t is usually pronounced /d/ in conversational English.  The t in steer, however, sounds like /t/ to me, as I would expect.

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BW2/3  +  299481 Fri, 01 Dec 06 09:33 AM

Thank you very much Mister Micawber,

What is 'liquids'?

And

Anxiety =ang zI  schwa?   De    Is there schwa sound between 'zi' and 'De'?

What does 'ty' sound to you?

I hear 'd'sound.

Mister Micawber  +  299549 Fri, 01 Dec 06 01:05 PM

Liquid:  a frictionless non-nasal continuant (especially 'l' and 'r')-- googling will probably get you some phonology sites with more info.

Anxiety:  yes, that sounds quite /d/-ish too.



Alienvoord  +  299608 Fri, 01 Dec 06 03:37 PM
After /s/, as in "steer", /t/ is unaspirated and could be confused with /d/. But it is definitely /t/; English has no words beginning with /sd/.
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Marvin A.  +  301948 Fri, 08 Dec 06 06:33 PM
>> Between vowel sounds (<i>Italy</i>), and between vowel and liquids (<i>title, butter</i>), the letter <i>t</i> is usually pronounced <b>/d/</b> in conversational English.  The<i> t</i> in steer, however, sounds like<b> /t/</b> to me, as I would expect. <<
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Interesting. I've only heard Japanese people pronounce Italy with a [ d ]. You must have an interesting dialect. I myself would say [ I4@li ] using an alveolar flap instead of a [ d ]. Italy in Upper RP would be pronounced [ It@lI].
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