1. definite articles - 2. dash and comma ?

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Tanit  #463628  Sun, 13 Jan 08 01:45 PM
Hi!
I am coauthoring an article. My co-author wrote this sentence:

These people should not only be identified with the set of the stakeholders who define the system of the strong interests tied to land use and transformation – and who design and implement the regional planning policies , but also with formal and informal organizations through which citizens may eventually focus and express their requirements, aspirations, needs and expectations, concerning the present and future organization of the urban space.

I'm not quite sure about all those articles I've highlighted. Should I delete them? (I think so). I'd also move that "not only" (which is meant to modify "the set," not "identifies") and the whole sentence would read:

These people should be identified not only with the set of stakeholders who define the system of strong interests tied to land use and transformation – and who design and implement regional planning policies , but also with formal and informal organizations through which citizens may eventually focus and express their requirements, aspirations, needs and expectations, concerning present and future organization of the urban space.

However, his English is far better than mine, so I thought I'd better look for your advice before editing. Smile [:)]

Also, how about ","? (I know it's a matter of style, but ... are there any guidelines I can refer to?)

Thank you in advance!



  
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Yoong Liat  #463853  Mon, 14 Jan 08 04:10 AM

Hi Tanit

These people should not only be identified with the set of the stakeholders who define the system of the strong interests tied to land use and transformation – and who design and implement the regional planning policies , but also with formal and informal organizations through which citizens may eventually focus and express their requirements, aspirations, needs and expectations, concerning the present and future organization of the urban space.

These people should not only be identified with the set of the stakeholders who define the system of the strong interests tied to land use and transformation, and who design and implement the regional planning policies, but also with formal and informal organizations through which citizens may eventually focus and express their requirements, aspirations, needs and expectations, concerning the present and future organization of the urban space.

The dash should not be followed by a comma. If you removed the dashes, you would have to replace them with commas.

  
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English Toolbox Co.  #463865  Mon, 14 Jan 08 05:35 AM
I would delete all except the final article "the"; and definitely remove the comma following the dash, which is unnecessary and wrong. The "not only" is good. The final product is:

These people should not only be identified with the set of stakeholders who define the system of strong interests tied to land use and transformation – and who design and implement regional planning policies – but also with formal and informal organizations through which citizens may eventually focus and express their requirements, aspirations, needs and expectations, concerning the present and future organization of the urban space.
  
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Tanit  #464058  Mon, 14 Jan 08 02:09 PM
YL & ET, thank you both!
  
Grammar Geek  #464154  Mon, 14 Jan 08 05:08 PM

Tanit, the "not only" and "but also" are not followed by parallel structures.

identified with not only X but also Y

identified not only with X but also with Y

not only identified with X but also VERB ...

  
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Tanit  #464223  Mon, 14 Jan 08 08:48 PM
Thanks, Barbara. I felt there was a problem with "not only... but also..."
However, he has already sent our abstract (today was the deadline - mmh, or "the deadline was today"?).
What's more, he didn't send my final version, and left all the "thes" and that comma after the dash Crying [:'(]
Well, if they accept the abstract, I'm going to change it as soon as possible! Angry [:@]

  
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