pructus  +  960345 Tue, 03 Nov 09 03:43 AM Hi!     Would you deny His yeanings to be knonw? **   Is it to be understood as (A) "deny His yearnings that He wants to be known to people"? or (B) "don't want His yearnings to be known to people"?   Or, at least grammatically, both are possible?       pructus Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 Full Member 429

	Mister Micawber  +  960473 Tue, 03 Nov 09 07:12 AM Only A seems reasonable: 'Would you not let him be known to people, which is what he wishes?' Mister Micawber Joined on Wed, Aug 4 2004 Yokohama Veteran Member 30,773 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master-- that's all.'

	pructus  +  960638 Tue, 03 Nov 09 12:20 PM   Thanks a lot, Mister Micawber..   Google shows lots of sentences like "He denied her to enter the room", which is of the same sentence sturucture as (B) and they are written by native speakers.   These things give me some confusion about correct use of the verb "deny"..       pructus Sentences

	Mister Micawber  +  960654 Tue, 03 Nov 09 12:33 PM If 'He denied her to enter the room' is written by natives, they are also illiterate. 'He denied her entry.' Mister Micawber

	pructus  +  960795 Tue, 03 Nov 09 04:52 PM   Followings are the structure, "deny A to Verb", seeming to mean "deny A's doing Verb-ing".   How would you consider these sentence forms? Not good English?   **     What can a Project Manager do? Limit edits. Approve or deny applications to be a manager.   some might deny its claim to be regarded as a world at all.   deny himself to be the Infinite God   to deny oneself to be a Christian   Deny messages to be sent to the following external Internet domains.   She was denied to enter her own country.   But I don't want the person whose visa was denied to get into any further trouble in Australia, neither now nor later.   ~~~ who was denied to enter the country         pructus Sentences

	Mister Micawber  +  960998 Tue, 03 Nov 09 10:07 PM The last three I consider ill formations.  The others are fine, as they have a noun object. Mister Micawber Nouns

	pructus  +  961416 Wed, 04 Nov 09 12:06 PM Thank you, Mister Micawber.. pructus

	Yankee  +  961426 Wed, 04 Nov 09 12:39 PM Hi Pructus The second to last one is actually OK. You just need to parse it properly: pructus “But I don't want the person whose visa was denied to get into any further trouble in Australia, neither now nor later.” But I don't want the person [whose visa was denied] to get into any further trouble in Australia, neither now nor later. i.e. I don't want the person to get into trouble. (The sentence refers to the person whose visa was denied.) Also, don't forget to take into account whether the verb deny is used actively or passively when you look at such sentences. Yankee Joined on Sat, Apr 15 2006 Connecticut, USA Veteran Member 6,494 Amy "You can't depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus." - Mark Twain