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SpongeBarb  +  243907 Sun, 09 Jul 06 06:21 AM

I guess  "Dickensophile" means Dickens fan/admirer/aficionado, but can't find this word in dictionary. Is 'ophile' a suffix?

Thanks.

ETA: Okey, I found 'phile' in the dictionary. The examples given under -phile all have an 'o' before the suffix- audiophile,Francophile, thermophile. .  Do you have to have an 'o' before 'phile'? Then why isn't the suffix 'ophile'?

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Notwen  +  243912 Sun, 09 Jul 06 08:15 AM
Hello SpongeBarb,

although I am not an English native speaker, I can help you, because -phile is indeed a suffix in many European languages.  It comes from the Greek and originally means friend or someone who loves.  The modern meaning is what you guessed : someone who likes/loves, amateur, aficionado...

You can find this Greek root in many words, not always as a suffix :
Philosophy : literally "the friendship of wisdom"  (this word could have been "sophiophile", sophia meaning wisdom in Greek)
Philanthropist : "The friend of mankind" (anthropos = man)
Philologist : "The friend of language"
Philatelist...

You also find it in names, e.g. Theophile (who likes God), and as a suffix in many words.
You sometimes have an antonym by replacing -phile by -phobe.  For example an arachnophile loves spiders, an arachnophobe hates them.
When used as a prefix, the antonym could be formed with "mis-", meaning "someone who dislikes". E.g. a misanthropist is someone who hates people.
Theoretically, all the words formed with -phile should be made of a Greek root (e.g; arachnos= spider),
but of course it's not an absolute rule.  You can put this suffix to any country name, as you said a Francophile loves France, a Germanophile loves Germany, a Sinophile loves China, etc. 


 SpongeBarb wrote:
The examples given under -phile all have an 'o' before the suffix- audiophile,Francophile, thermophile. .  Do you have to have an 'o' before 'phile'?
You often find an 'o' before, for euphonic reason : with a consonant before, it would be hard to pronounce.
But the Greek root is "philos", then the suffix is -phile.

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Jerome
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SpongeBarb, 3 yr 135 days ago

Hi Jerome,

 Xie Xie! (I trust that you speak Chinese?)

Notwen, 3 yr 135 days ago
Yi dian dian...
I learn it... but it's really hard !

Do you speak Chinese ?
Philip  +  244272 Mon, 10 Jul 06 04:10 PM

 Notwen wrote:
Yi dian dian...
I learn it... but it's really hard !

Do you speak Chinese ?
  Ni hau. 

Because the action is still in progress, I'd use "I'm learning it".  Have a good day.  [Do I speak Chinese?  Bu.]

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Notwen  +  244296 Mon, 10 Jul 06 05:11 PM

Ni hao Philip !

Because the action is still in progress, I'd use "I'm learning it".
Thank you !  You help me to improve my English !

 

 

Do I speak Chinese?  Bu.
In Chinese the negation is always followed by the negated verb.  You'd then answer "Bu ***" (*** = to be able to).
By the way... I learned 25 years ago that it was roughly the same in English, i.e. you couldn't answer "No", but you had to answer "No, I don't".
I think the "No" is now widely accepted, isn't it ?  Or totally accepted ?


Edit : Why is "h u i" replaced by 3 stars ??? 

SpongeBarb  +  244484 Tue, 11 Jul 06 05:17 AM
 Notwen wrote:

I think the "No" is now widely accepted, isn't it ?  Or totally accepted ?


Jerome, I think you're asking  Philip this, but in case you're asking me-

Sorry I don't know.  I've never been to China, but I'd like to!

Colombo  +  244544 Tue, 11 Jul 06 09:39 AM
 SpongeBarb wrote:
 Notwen wrote:

I think the "No" is now widely accepted, isn't it ?  Or totally accepted ?


Jerome, I think you're asking  Philip this, but in case you're asking me-

Sorry I don't know.  I've never been to China, but I'd like to!

I think he means in English, doesn't he? (Don't you, Jerome?) I cannot answer that question; I always try to say "no, I don't", or the like, since that's what I was taught, but I don't know whether a mere "no" is totally accepted or not.

I don't speak Chinese. Not a word.

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Notwen  +  244552 Tue, 11 Jul 06 09:58 AM

 Colombo wrote:
I think he means in English, doesn't he? (Don't you, Jerome?)
Yes, I do.
I wrote that it was not acceptable in Chinese (will it last ? Who knows...), but what about English ?

I always try to say "no, I don't", or the like, since that's what I was taught, but I don't know whether a mere "no" is totally accepted or not.
So do I... and that's why I'd like to hear natives about it.

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