Angliholic  +  551921 Thu, 07 Aug 08 06:06 AM Up to the present time, several children have died of/from enterovirus. Hi, Do both of and from fit in the above and mean about the same to you? Thanks. Angliholic Joined on Wed, Feb 14 2007 SomewhereinFormosa Veteran Member 6,473 Without true love, life is meaningless and worthless since our physical world is nothing but a dream. ~~Angliholic~~簡瑞達

	Mr.English  +  552102 Thu, 07 Aug 08 03:01 PM Hey! In this case it would be more accurate to say "several children have died from an enterovirus", to say 'died of' doesn't sound correct; in reality however you don't die from a virus you die from its effects on the bodies tissue(s) so lucking at it this way neither is correct and 'died of' is a definate no no. With respect to lay journalism and newspaper articles it is probable that: "several children have died from an enterovirus" would be used. Hope that helps. Mr.English Joined on Sun, Jul 27 2008 New Member 13 Articles

	New2grammar  +  552216 Thu, 07 Aug 08 06:39 PM Mr. English, But you do die of cancer, don't you? Could you explain the difference between die of and die from? Thanks. New2grammar Joined on Tue, Nov 21 2006 Veteran Member 7,676 Who wants to go sailing around the world with me? Difference Between

	Mr.English  +  552270 Thu, 07 Aug 08 08:59 PM Hey, ye it is a really difficult topic to explain, i think perhaps it just comes from living in an English speaking country that you pick up what is best to use, i don't think there is a grammatical rule, you just tend to know what fits best. Yes it the case of cancer you do die 'from' and 'of' cancer but in this case i feel 'of' is the better alternative to use. When referring to the past 'of' seems more appropriate (he died of cancer), when speaking in the present 'from' is more appropriate (he is suffering from cancer), in general that is the rule i would follow, but it does have its exceptions as mentioned earlier. In reality whatever you say will be understood by a native and they will point you in the correct direction with what to use in each situation. Hope that helps a bit. Mr.English

	Seraphin  +  552278 Thu, 07 Aug 08 09:21 PM a quote from a previous post M-W's Dictionary of English Usage comments: "From as far back as 1881, there have been varying pronouncements as to which prepositions may be used with which objects after the verb die.  Sometimes disapproval is expressed of one preposition or another; Vizetelly 1906 and Copperud 1964, 1970., 1980 do not like from, and Ayres 1881 and Jensen 1935 do not like with.  Since as many specifically approve these two prepositions as object to them, there cannot be much of a question of propriety here.  But there is still the question of idiom.  Here we have some sample texts in which prepositions are used with die in various senses.  Of seems to be the most commonly used: dying of kidney disease died of too much love die of horror dying of inanition died of starvation died from an infection died from lack of enthusiasm died from too much doubt died for lack of support died with pneumonia died with the cholera died through neglect." Seraphin Joined on Sat, Feb 9 2008 Full Member 151 Verbs, Prepositions, Idioms, Sample

	CalifJim  +  552341 Fri, 08 Aug 08 01:17 AM Angliholic “Up to the present time, several children have died of/from enterovirus. Hi, Do both of and from fit in the above and mean about the same to you? Thanks. ” Your best bet is to use of.  die of [a disease, infection, etc.] However, note that you die of a disease, not of an infectious agent such as bacteria or a virus. Therefore, you need to say:  died of an enterovirus infection.  Another example.  Bacteria cause pneumonia, so you say ... died of pneumonia; you don't say ... died of bacteria. CJ    CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,128 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche