What is the difference between "here you go"and "there you go"?

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MrPedantic  #90279  Fri, 15 Apr 05 01:44 PM
Hello T.

I hasten to add that the 'There you go' that 'He' uses in my post is an 'inappropriate There You Go'.

Unfortunately, He's not listening to a word She's saying, and gives a purely mechanical response.

A very regrettable situation.

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Guest  #90290  Fri, 15 Apr 05 02:05 PM
Indeed. If my husband were to act that way I'd knock him over the head with the miniature frying pan I carry in my handbag for just such occasions.
  
Tonyoung  #90298  Fri, 15 Apr 05 02:58 PM
Thanks MrPedantic,I got your point this time.You mean the "he" is attracted by that attractive waitress?Is that so?
The potential meaning of some English phrase is really the English charm itself.
  
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abbie1948  #90377  Fri, 15 Apr 05 07:25 PM
Sorry Tony. It's the theme tune of the oldest "soap opera" in the world- The Archers, which has been running on the BBC for more than 50 years, and used to be called soemthing like "the evryday story of country folk"

Billy Connolly (comedian) once suggested the theme tune should be used as the Br. national anthem - personally I think it would an improvement on the current one! Smile [:)]
  
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MrPedantic  #90443  Sat, 16 Apr 05 01:04 AM
You mean the "he" is attracted by that attractive waitress?

Very much so. The words and phrases that emerge from his mouth bear no relation to the thoughts in his head. And even less relation to his girlfriend's comments. In fact, it shows every sign of developing into a very successful relationship.

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just the truth  #90465  Sat, 16 Apr 05 01:57 AM
Mr P:
I hasten to add that the 'There you go' that 'He' uses in my post is an 'inappropriate There You Go'.

Mr P's play:
She: How was your chicken paprika?
He: Oh...so-so.
She: My aubergine masala was wonderful.
He: Uh huh...
She: I love these little flowers...don't you? like miniature chrysanthemums.
He: Mmm...
She: It's a lovely restaurant, isn't it? We must come here again.
He: There you go...
{Attractive waitress at last finishes clearing the table stage left, and exits to the kitchen.}
He: {coughs} Yes, absolutely!

JTT: Mr ShakesPear's meaning is now clear to me. I entertained that the "There you go" was connected to the man handing something to the waitress. He then catches himself and turns to his 'she' and embarrassed, coughs and tries to re-engage her.

But this brings up a larger issue. One that I've run into a lot of late. Let me suggest that, even with your interpretation, which is fine of course as you wrote the play, the language is appropriate; the behavior may well not be.

What I mean to say is, language isn't to 'blame'. Language is neutral in that it provides us with whatever we need for any given circumstance. If someone is performing in an inept social manner, language doesn't fail that person. Socially inept situations need socially inept language. Language provides exactly what is needed.

When we're at a loss for words, it's not language that is to blame. When we can't communicate with someone, it isn't the fault of language. When we need hesitation noises, language is right there for us.

What I'm saying is, language is perfect, people are less so.
  
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MrPedantic  #90477  Sat, 16 Apr 05 03:00 AM
I have rarely heard such drivel.

MrP
  
just the truth  #90481  Sat, 16 Apr 05 03:06 AM
MrP:

I have rarely heard such drivel.


JTT: Aww, come on Mr P, don't be so hard on yourself. Your play and subsequent comments were not that bad.Smile [:)]
  
CalifJim  #90482  Sat, 16 Apr 05 03:07 AM
Oh, no. Here we go again. Smile [:)]
  
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