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Doll  #457825  Fri, 28 Dec 07 12:45 PM

Hello everyone, 

Is there any difference between the following sentences?  

They considered him a fool.
They considered him to be a fool.   

Similar structure:  
His lawyers proved him innocent.
His lawyers proved him to be innocent.  

I couldn't find any diffrence.  

Thanks in advance.Smile [:)]

  
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Clive  #457875  Fri, 28 Dec 07 03:51 PM

Hi,

Is there any difference between the following sentences?  

They considered him a fool.
They considered him to be a fool.   

There's often no difference intended. However, here are some comments.

They considered him to be a fool. This refers to the time of 'considering'.  eg Look, there's Tom. He's a fool.

They considered him to have been a fool. eg When Tom did that last year, he was a fool. Now he thinks more carefully, so he's not a fool now.

They considered him a fool. This has a less clear focus, without context. But it probably refers to the time of 'considering', like #1 above.

Best wishes, Clive

 

  
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CalifJim  #457968  Fri, 28 Dec 07 09:52 PM
There are six patterns involving a predicate complement of the object.  The complement can be a noun phrase (NP) or an adjective phrase (AP).

NP V NP NP |   NP V NP AP
NP V NP to be NP |   NP V NP to be AP
NP V NP as NP |   NP V NP as AP

The same verb can often take more than one of these patterns with no change of meaning.  But exactly which pattern(s) each verb can take is a matter of considerable confusion at times!  (Reminder:  * = ungrammatical; ?= borderline grammatical; possibly ungrammatical.)

consider him a fool |  consider him crazy
consider him to be a fool |  consider him to be crazy
?consider him as a fool |  ?consider him as crazy

prove him an innocent man | prove him innocent
prove him to be an innocent man |  prove him to be innocent
*prove him as an innocent man |  *prove him as innocent

appointed/named him secretary | *appointed/named him secretarial
appointed/named him to be secretary |  *appointed/named him to be secretarial
appointed/named him as secretary |  *appointed/named him as secretarial

*knew him an honest man |  *knew him honest
knew him to be an honest man |  knew him to be honest
*knew him as an honest man |  *knew him as honest

*describe/treat him a friend |  *describe/treat him foolish
*describe/treat him to be a friend | *describe/treat him to be foolish
describe/treat him as a friend | describe/treat him as foolish

proclaim him a hero |  ?proclaim him heroic
proclaim him to be a hero |  ?proclaim him to be heroic
*proclaim him as a hero | *proclaim him as heroic

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Doll  #457977  Fri, 28 Dec 07 10:26 PM
Thanks Clive and CJ for your answers. They were really helpful. I should find a picture for them to remember now. Smile [:)]
  
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