wholegrain  +  549421 Thu, 31 Jul 08 11:37 PM Ok, can I say instead of "I often hear the argument of dissuasion in debates of this sort." "I often hear the argument of dissuasion in debates." if from the precedent sentence(s) we can infer of what sort of debates we are referring to? I really appreciate your help. wholegrain Joined on Thu, Jun 19 2008 Regular Member 534

	CalifJim  +  549442 Fri, 01 Aug 08 01:06 AM wholegrain “the argument of dissuasion” It is not easy to assign meaning to this group of words. But to answer your question: No.  You can't just drop "of this sort".  Without it, you're just making a statement about debates in general -- not necessarily even the ones referred to in other sentences which precede this one. CJ  CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,128 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche

	wholegrain  +  549479 Fri, 01 Aug 08 03:32 AM I thought the same, but I found these: Names Mentioned in Debates by Major Presidential Candidates But the fact is, included with all that, he is also a fantastic guitar player who deserves to have his name mentioned in debates right along the sides of Carlos Santana and Pete Townshend. The 1891 conflict seems to have left an indelible mark and is still frequently mentioned in debates. wholegrain