gurban  +  138021 Fri, 16 Sep 05 09:02 AM In education it is mostly said that children/learners should not be pumished. Is discipline without punishment possible? Please send your comments, ideas. gurban Joined on Thu, Mar 31 2005 Turkmenistan New Member 07 light of hope

	Robyn Terri  +  138170 Fri, 16 Sep 05 05:52 PM What do you mean by punishment? If you mean physical punishment like smacking a child than yes discipline without physical punishment is certainly possible. I would think it is prefered, though it does require more self discipline from the adult as well as more thought and creativity. A child needs to learn that there are negative consequences to negative behavior. Is speaking firmly to correct a child or growling at them considered punishment? Robyn Terri Joined on Sat, Apr 16 2005 Western Australia Full Member 323 Words don't have meanings, meanings have words. Negatives

	Waïti  +  138185 Fri, 16 Sep 05 06:20 PM Are you talking about corporal punishment or just punishment in general ? I don't think resorting to physical violence as a means to enforce discipline is necessarily needed. But I do not conceive of discipline without punishement. Nor do I conceive it without reward for that matter. Waïti Joined on Thu, Aug 25 2005 Regular Member 568

	Philip  +  138284 Sat, 17 Sep 05 12:34 AM  Gurban wrote: In education it is mostly said that children/learners should not be pumished. Is discipline without punishment possible? Please send your comments, ideas. Many parents, educators and psychologists believe that discipline can best be achieved by allowing "natural consequences" to be the so-called punishment in effect.  The rules need to be set up carefully, or "natural" loses its meaning.  If a child doesn't eat his dinner because, he's too full, by-passing dessert is a natural consequence rather than a punishment.  If a student skips class on Monday, the natural consequence is that he will probably do poorly on the pop-quiz on Tuesday, which he must take with the other students if he has not note of excuse from a parent.       Philip Joined on Thu, Jun 23 2005 Veteran Member 8,604 At reise er at leve! - H. C. Andersen

	monfrancom  +  138578 Sat, 17 Sep 05 07:30 PM  Gurban wrote: In education it is mostly said that children/learners should not be pumished. Is discipline without punishment possible? Please send your comments, ideas. I did a search on www.kartoo.com using the words "discipline punishment" together, and found this web site http://www.new-life.net/discipln.htm that helps to put discipline and punishment in perspective.  Be aware that this discussion is within a "christian" context.  The reader can easily discociate any elements that show a religious tendency and get to the essential meanings pertaining to discipline versus punishment.  It should be the first lesson in Discipline 101 class!  It should also be part of every schools' first meeting between administration and teachers.  Needless to say, it should also be included in the first communication sent home to parents every school year! monfrancom Joined on Tue, Jan 27 2004 Grand Calumet, Québec New Member 45 Living in harmony starts within one's own self.

	gurban  +  139131 Mon, 19 Sep 05 06:48 AM Yeah, what I meant was any kind of punishment, physical, verbal or whatever. In school where I work,for instance, physical punishment is strictly forbidden. But there is no discipline at all. Children are like teachers' friend. They behave to teachers as if they are,teachers, their friends. gurban

	anita_a  +  141956 Mon, 26 Sep 05 04:26 PM I don't believe that you need to physically punish a kid in order to discipline him or her.Be it a teacher or a parent, they should know how to draw the line between being friendly and disciplining them. And the best way to discipline the kids is to be friendly with them but be strict when it comes to some wrong that they have done. Be stern and strict when they go wrong and also let them know where they went wrong and what are the consequences thereupon. anita_a Joined on Tue, Jul 27 2004 Sunny California Regular Member 822 Cheers,Anita