Yeah, and why was Indiana of all places part of the Old Northwest?

J.

Dublin to Manc by train and Seacat is cheap and fast, but having driven down to Kerry about six weeks ago, I know the first stage of your journey's going to take longer. (Though there's cheap direct flights from Galway and Knock).
Post when you're coming and we'll do the beer thing.

The trip to Kerry was my first real visit to Ireland, apart from trips to Dublin and Belfast. A very civilised place to live in all sorts of ways. I spend a lot of time up on the West Coast of Scotland (ie within 10 miles of the sea qv); West Ireland struck me as having everything I like about Scotland only more so. And warmer.
DC

History. When the US stopped at the Mississippi, everything NW of the Ohio was "the Northwest Territory", naturally enough. After the Louisiana Purchase, that area was called the Old Northwest, because "the West" now meant everything west of the Mississippi - a usage which still current, otherwise all those Westerns would have to be renamed "Middlings".

Don Aitken
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OK. You wrote 'But you might consider the idea that you probably don't hear what's current in AmE and BrE as often as people in America and England do.'
Since you're an America-bound American, the clear implication was that you hear more BrE than I do. That, of course, is nonsense. Aside from considering the several Britons I talk with every week naturally enough since Britain is a short distance away, plus a number of Britons make their home here consider that the Irish themselves speak BrE. Hiberno-English too, but you'd be less familiar with that.

More precisely and correctly, AmE means American English, if there is such a thing, and BrE means British English, if that can be defined, not specifically the English spoken in England, whatever meaning that has.
Most all AUE regulars know these nuances, but they remain handy terms nonetheless.

I never quibble.

Most people would be unable to find it on a map; I suspect very few have tried. True for the named craters on a moon map, as well. I suppose that's a bit narrow minded too, but at least most of them realise America is not the centre of the universe as all Michigansmonians outside the Chicago area believe in their heart of hearts.

Excepting Chicago, I'd rather live on the moon. Perhaps including Chicago, now that I think more about it.


Better if you'd said it, rather than implied it. I call a spade a spade...you?

If you had said it.

Then you're claiming you've been outside the confines of North America? Pray tell. As I said, perhaps I missed something.


Sadly enough, that is true. Patriots and nationalists cause many of the world's problems. They always have, and people not enlightened to the universality of Man always will.

If not a fan of them though, that's your loss.

As Cher would say, I could care less.

Gobbledygook

Charles Riggs

A large number of dumb cowboys thinking of you, George W live in Texas, some not-so-dumb ones too. Texas, therefore, is part of The West.
To hear Texans tell it though, Texas is America. Been there: second worse state in the country, unless you love Machomen, is what it actually is. IMO.

Charles Riggs