paco2004  +  82651 Mon, 21 Mar 05 07:32 AM Hello Khoff Thank you for the correction. Yes 'in awakening' should be 'on awakening'. As for 'do you have a headache?' and 'have you (got) a headache?', I began to feel it would be another misleading old knowledge legendarily taught from a generation to another generation by Japanese scholars of the English language. Those scholars are telling that in BrE 'have/have got' are used for a temporal possession and 'does have' is used for a permanent possession. It is possible there was once such a distinction in old BrE. But as far as I googled, it seems nowadays even British people are using 'have got'/'have'/'does have' interchangeably. They seem to use 'do you have headaches?' to ask whether one suffers habitually from headaches and 'do you have/have you/have you a headache' to ask whether one is 'now' suffering from a headache. Anyway it is very useful for me to visit here and check the validity of my old English knowledge of this kind by asking to you native speakers. paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English. British People

	CalifJim  +  82870 Tue, 22 Mar 05 02:50 AM Is it so? Yes, Paco. It is so! By the way, do you mean "temporary" rather than "temporal"? CJ CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,128 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche

	paco2004  +  82875 Tue, 22 Mar 05 03:14 AM CJ Thank you! Now I got it! As for 'temporal' and 'temporary', I have confused them until now! Hazukashii (I'm ashamed of myself). paco paco2004

	MrPedantic  +  83076 Wed, 23 Mar 05 01:14 AM I began to feel it would be another misleading old knowledge legendarily taught from a generation to another generation by Japanese scholars of the English language... Well, it sounds a thoroughly engaging situation to me. I'm all in favour of preserving misleading old knowledge. Hats off to your scholars, Paco. 'Wrong but romantic.' MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 13,616 ...opella forensis / adducit febris...

	paco2004  +  83080 Wed, 23 Mar 05 01:25 AM I'd say rather 'romantic but wrong.' The problem is even Genius Dictionary (one of the most reputable E-J dictionaries in Japan) is saying that 'have a headache' means 'suffer from headaches habitually'. I wonder why such wrong knowledge is continuing to be reproduced by 'great' English teachers/scholars in Japan. paco paco2004

	just the truth  +  83150 Wed, 23 Mar 05 08:52 AM Thank you! Now I got it! As for 'temporal' and 'temporary', I have confused them until now! Hazukashii (I'm ashamed of myself). >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's one of those times that I was talking about, Paco. Although I can't nor should I deem how a culture is supposed to feel in any given circumstances, for English, I think is "overplayed". I'd suggested that the scale of things only warrants an . is a word that is generally used for more serious, more grevious omissions. just the truth Joined on Mon, Dec 27 2004 Regular Member 849

	just the truth  +  83153 Wed, 23 Mar 05 08:53 AM Well, it sounds a thoroughly engaging situation to me. I'm all in favour of preserving misleading old knowledge. MrP That's readily apparent, Mr P. just the truth

	just the truth  +  83157 Wed, 23 Mar 05 09:01 AM In NaE, "Have you got ..." is often used in expression where the speaker wants to add a degree of importance/emphasis to a situation. Got Milk is an advert on TV and "have +got" illustrates what I've said. "You've got mail" is another. Listen to songs; where importance is needed, "S have got" is used much more often. My Girl I've got sunshine on a cloudy day and when it's cold outside, I've got the month of May Sonny & Cher's "I got you Babe" HER: They say we're young and we don't know We won't find out until we grow HIM: Well I don't know if all that's true 'Cause you got me, and baby I got you HIM: Babe BOTH: I got you babe I got you babe HER: They say our love won't pay the rent Before it's earned, our money's all been spent HIM: I guess that's so, we don't have a pot But at least I'm sure of all the things we got HIM: Babe BOTH: I got you babe I got you babe HIM: I got flowers in the spring I got you to wear my ring HER: And when I'm sad, you're a clown And if I get scared, you're always around HER: Don't let them say your hair's too long 'Cause I don't care, with you I can't go wrong HIM: Then put your little hand in mine There ain't no hill or mountain we can't climb HIM: Babe BOTH: I got you babe I got you babe HIM: I got you to hold my hand HER: I got you to understand HIM: I got you to walk with me HER: I got you to talk with me I got you to kiss goodnight I got you to hold me tight I got you, I won't let go I got you to love me so BOTH: I got you babe I got you babe I got you babe I got you babe I got you babe just the truth

	MrPedantic  +  83166 Wed, 23 Mar 05 09:16 AM we don't have a pot I can't help feeling the lyricist was struggling a little at this point. MrP MrPedantic