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Grammarian-bot  +  329031 Wed, 14 Feb 07 04:11 AM

1.        According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty, modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s.


2.        According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty, modeled the face of the statue as that of his mother’s and the body as that of his wife’s.


Which onw of the above two sentences is correct?

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Pioussoul  +  329059 Wed, 14 Feb 07 05:31 AM
 Grammarian-bot wrote:

<!--[if !supportLists]-->1.        <!--[endif]-->According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty, modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s. Yes [Y]


<!--[if !supportLists]-->2.        <!--[endif]-->According to his own account, Frederic-Auguste Bartholdi, the sculptor of the Statue of Liberty, modeled the face of the statue as that of his mother’s and the body as that of his wife’s.


Which onw of the above two sentences is correct?

GB

 

At first sight, the first one makes more sense to me. There are some minor problems with the words in bold, as for the second sentence.

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Grammarian-bot  +  329806 Fri, 16 Feb 07 03:53 AM
But you can't use "like" as a conjunction where it means as if.
My question here is to know whether a double genetive is appropriate here.
GB

milky  +  329831 Fri, 16 Feb 07 05:58 AM

The second one is clearer. The first could be read ambiguously.

<modeled the face of the statue like his mother’s and the body like his wife’s.>

He modeled the face of a statue, which was not the Statue of Liberty in this case, after a statue that represented his mother.

Similar for the body.

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Inchoateknowledge  +  329854 Fri, 16 Feb 07 07:48 AM

 Grammarian-bot wrote:
But you can't use "like" as a conjunction where it means as if.
My question here is to know whether a double genetive is appropriate here.
GB

like is a prep in the first sentence

People sometimes object to the “double genitive” construction, as in a friend of my father’s or a book of mine. But the construction has been used in English since the 14th century and serves a useful purpose. It can help sort out ambiguous phrases like Bob’s photograph, which could mean either “a photograph of Bob” (i.e., revealing Bob’s image) or “a photograph that is in Bob’s possession.” A photograph of Bob’s, on the other hand, can only be a photo that Bob has in his possession and may or may not show Bob’s image. Moreover, in some sentences the double genitive offers the only way to express what is meant. There is no substitute for it in a sentence such as That’s the only friend of yours that I’ve ever met, since sentences such as That’s your only friend that I’ve ever met and That’s your only friend, whom I’ve ever met are not grammatical.

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Grammarian-bot, 2 yr 280 days ago
 Inchoateknowledge wrote:
like is a prep in the first sentence


Sorry. My mistake.

GB
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