Egotism and egoism

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surf:
What's the difference between egotism and egoism? I can't tell.
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Denny Wheeler:
[nq:1]What's the difference between egotism and egoism? I can't tell.[/nq]
Egoism is sometimes used as a synonym for egotism Here are the American Heritage Dictionary's entries for the two words:
egoism
1a. The ethical doctrine that morality has its foundations in self-interest. b. The ethical belief that self-interest is the just and proper motive for all human conduct. 2. Excessive preoccupation with one's own well-being and interests, usually accompanied by an inflated sense of self-importance. 3. Egotism; conceit. See synonyms at conceit.
egotism

1. The tendency to speak or write of oneself excessively andboastfully. 2. An inflated sense of one's own importance; conceit. See synonyms at conceit.
As you see, the #1 definitions are not equivalent.

In general conversation and writing, one is much more likely to encounter 'egotism' than 'egoism' and in fact, I think one more likely to encounter the condition it defines.
Hope that helps.

denny
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Mickwick:
[nq:1]What's the difference between egotism and egoism? I can't tell.[/nq]
An egotist talks about himself a lot whereas an egoist thinks he's so bloody marvellous that nobody else matters. Egotists can exhibit egoism and egoists can exhibit egotism but it is quite possible to be an egoist who doesn't talk about himself much and to be an egotist who doesn't think much of himself.
Strictly speaking, egotism is using 'I' too much. I've sometimes wondered whether the upper-crust British habit of dropping the personal pronoun 'Went fishin' this morning, Soames. Dropped me bally rod in the pool and had to send Smethwick in to fetch it out.' started as a cheat's way of getting around nanny's strictures against egotism.

Probably not, though. 'I' wasn't the only sentence-starting word dropped by upper-crust Brits 'Blighter dripped mud all over me best macfarlane.'

Mickwick,
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MC:
[nq:2]What's the difference between egotism and egoism? I can't tell.[/nq]
[nq:1]An egotist talks about himself a lot whereas an egoist thinks he's so bloody marvellous that nobody else matters. Egotists ... though. 'I' wasn't the only sentence-starting word dropped by upper-crust Brits 'Blighter dripped mud all over me best macfarlane.'[/nq]
Hate it when that happens. But it's better than getting milk on your McVitie's, Boofy, old chap.
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Gary Vellenzer:
[nq:2]What's the difference between egotism and egoism? I can't tell.[/nq]
[nq:1]An egotist talks about himself a lot whereas an egoist thinks he's so bloody marvellous that nobody else matters. Egotists ... though. 'I' wasn't the only sentence-starting word dropped by upper-crust Brits 'Blighter dripped mud all over me best macfarlane.'[/nq]
Poor fellow was suffering from ergotism, no doubt.

Gary
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howard richler:
[nq:1]What's the difference between egotism and egoism? I can't tell.[/nq]
For me, egotism implies a greater degree of vanity and selfishness. Egoism has a value-neutral sense in philosophy as well as its more common meaning whereas egotism's only sense is one of selfishness.
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Robert Bannister:
[nq:1]What's the difference between egotism and egoism? I can't tell.[/nq]
You've got problems! I can't tell the difference between the verb forms of 'amend' and 'emend'.

Rob Bannister
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Philip Eden :
[nq:2]Strictly speaking, egotism is using 'I' too much. I've sometimes ... Brits 'Blighter dripped mud all over me best macfarlane.'[/nq]
[nq:1]Hate it when that happens. But it's better than getting milk on your McVitie's, Boofy, old chap.[/nq]
Both your and
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Philip Eden :
[nq:2]Strictly speaking, egotism is using 'I' too much. I've sometimes ... Brits 'Blighter dripped mud all over me best macfarlane.'[/nq]
[nq:1]Hate it when that happens. But it's better than getting milk on your McVitie's, Boofy, old chap.[/nq]
Whoops.
To be even more realistic, both your and Mickwick's personal pronouns can also be replaced by the definite article. And also those superfluous prepositions ...e.g.
"... dropped the bally rod in the pool and had to send Smethwick to fetch it ..."
Philip Eden
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