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Marvin A.  #315184  Sun, 14 Jan 07 04:34 PM
>> These "dentals" don't occur in other european languages at all. <<

Actually they occur in Icelandic, Danish, some dialects of Spanish, and Greek.
  
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Anonymous  #345417  Fri, 30 Mar 07 07:36 PM
You say its easy, and yet you write 'learned' instead of 'learnt' - a classic example.
  
Diamondrg  #345517  Fri, 30 Mar 07 11:56 PM

the discrepancy between the written English and the spoken English... being good at written English does not guarantee that you will also be good at listening and understanding spoken language as it is too fast and words become unrecognizable when they speak fluently .  

  
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Marvin A.  #345752  Sat, 31 Mar 07 04:55 PM
and an ignorant American would look at British and pronounce practise (Br. spelling) like practize....


Highly unlikely.

Americans on the other hand, have been butchering it for centuries and should not be consulted when learning this language. It is, after all, English and not American.


Rubbish.  North American English is in many ways much closer to Elizabethan English than British English, Australian English and New Zealand English.

Anonymous Australian.


Well, we could say that Australian English speakers are "butchering the language": for one thing, most of you have forgotten how to prononounce your r's; your vowels are quite different earlier forms of English, and your vocabulary has shifted quite a bit.


It is, after all, English and not American.

Well, it's not Australian either.


so it is logical that the more words one knows, the more thoughts one can have.


How is that logical?  Other languages can also be quite expressive.  Just because English "has" over a million words, you have to realize that many are simply restricted to medicine; others are not in common use and would be quite incomprehensible to most people.  Just by possessing a copious amount of words (many of these so called "English words" are hardly native words, and are not understood by many people), doesn't mean that English is more expressive than other languages in all respects.

It (the spelling) was fixed 400 years ago


Yes, for the most part.  But what I don't understand, is if someone wants to simply be able to speak English (and doesn't care about reading and writing), why don't they simply use a phonetic alphabet when learning English.


though I'm convinced once upon a time it really was pronounced "kuh-ni-git"


Actually in Old and Middle English, the "k" was pronounced (but there was no "uh" after it), and the "g" was pronounced like in the word "Loch" if you put on a Scottish accent.


Or meaby something from German: einhundertfunfundzwazig (125) - this is correct spelling, there shouldn't be any spaces!!!


Well, it's easy enough to break down, and is hardly harder than onehundredtwentyfive.


You say its easy, and yet you write 'learned' instead of 'learnt' - a classic example.


"learned" and "learnt" tend to be pretty well interchangeable.
  
Kooyeen  #345776  Sat, 31 Mar 07 06:40 PM
 Anonymous wrote:
This is why English is superior to every other language, because of it's limitless versatility and boundless possibilities. In comparison to all other languages (which I can also speak fluently), English is the only dialect where you can express yourself precisely enough to articulate unrivalled thought.


Hi,
I wanted to say that's not true at all. English is very very "limited" compared to Italian, for example. There are an avalanche of basic expressions that can't be translated into English and that are very useful. I always feel a little limited when using English instead of Italian, and it's not a matter of vocabulary. Really, English is not very expressive compared with Italian. Smile [:)]

  
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Neversaynever  #345796  Sat, 31 Mar 07 08:19 PM

Kooyeen I agree with you about the thing that "English is not very expressive".. (I do not know it compared with Italian though Stick out tongue [:P]) However, If I compare it with my native tongue which is Turkish, I find it very limited too... And I think it is not a difficult language at all, and it is easy to learn because you can hear, or see English everywhere.. we are surrounded by that.. (Globalizm you know.)

As someone mentioned before, there are so much words that even the natives don't know them all.. But you don't have to know them all either.. Therefore, I think it is easy in terms of grammar (if we compared with other languages), and it can be learnt very easily because you can practise everywhere, anytime etc.

Cheers! Smile [:)]

  
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Anonymous  #353874  Sun, 22 Apr 07 02:12 AM
"I wanted to say that's not true at all. English is very very "limited" compared to Italian, for example."

I'd have to disagree entirely.  I'm a native English speaker, and I also speak some Spanish and I'm learning French.  I feel just as restricted speaking Spanish and French as you do speaking English.  It's not because we don't have ways of saying the same things, we just wouldn't use the same expression.  In fact an English speaker probably wouldn't even say the same thing, they would describe the thought in a different way that makes sense to an English speaker.

You can not learn a language through your own, you'll inevitbaly feel limited.  Eventually I hope to become fluent in French and then I won't feel so restricted because I'll learn their expressions and when I'm speaking French I'll think in French not English.

A language is as expressive as the person speaking it.
  
Anonymous  #356450  Fri, 27 Apr 07 04:47 AM
I believed a person of having a hard time to learn a second language, is his lack of interest.
  
Anonymous  #383193  Sat, 23 Jun 07 02:50 AM
The reason English is so difficult is because it's such a mishmosh language. Like a bad school-cafeteria casserole, it's got bits and pieces derived from many different languages, both existing and dead. It's primarily German, French, Latin, and Anglo-Saxon, but there's some old Celtic/Gaelic/Welsh-type languages thrown in there too (hence the many different pronunciations of "g" and "gh"). The vast majority of other languages are just evolved versions of ancient tongues, or they're two mixed languages that were mixed so long ago that the product has developed a uniform character all its own. English grammar is so strange thanks to its attempts to accommodate the grammatical structures of all its source languages at once; the same can be said for its tense-shifting characteristics. The pronunciation and all the discrepancies between different words, dialects, and stages in the language's evolution are owed partly to the language's longtime status as a common/peasants' language and partly to the many different source languages.

For the record, as difficult as it is to learn English, it's just as hard for English speakers to learn any other language. We don't have much common ground with any one language, and unstressed languages are even more difficult. I'm learning Japanese right now, and it's really difficult for me to avoid stressing syllables.

Good luck to anyone trying to learn English! =D
  
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