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Banned
Esperanto is a bit like Latin -- no one uses it on a daily basis. A language has to be alive, it has to reflect the mentality of its speakers. Esperanto might be completely logic which is one of the reasons why it never really has taken off. If you want to learn a language that is entirely based on logic then you should study a computer language such as JavaScript or HTML.
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Englishuser
Hi [Banned],
What is your relationship with the website [edited by mod]? Anyway, as far as Esperanto is concerned, I'd like to emphasize that many people agree with me when I say that Esperanto ought to be used the international lingua franca rather than English. Another person who thinks like me is professor John Wells. You can read more about what he thinks about Esperanto on his website: http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/home/wells/.
I think it's faintly ridiculous to tell me that I should study a language such as JavaScript or HTML. Instead, you should convince me why I should communicate in English when addressing a Spaniard or a Pole. Why wouldn't we communicate in Esperanto instead of in English? What about international organisations and companies? Why do they so often adopt English as their official language? Simply because the world's sole superpower happens to be an English-speaking nation it doesn't mean that it is any more fair to have other people learn English so as to be able to communicate with people from overseas. Another solution of mine would be to make English everyone's native language.
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Banned
Englishuser wrote:
Instead, you should convince me why I should communicate in English when addressing a Spaniard or a Pole.Why exactly do you want me to convince you of anything? It's a matter of facing reality I guess rather than trying to convince anyone. People communicate more in English than in Esperanto simply because English is a natural language while Esperanto is an artificual attempt to fabricate a language. Enlish is alive and grows while Esperanto is an experiment. Just take a look at the world around you and sooner or later you will realize this fact too. Esperanto will never be a global means of communication because nobody speaks it as their native language. How many people think and dream in Esperanto?
Englishuser wrote:
What about international organisations and companies? Why do they so often adopt English as their official language?Because the vast majority of all international organizations and companies are based in the US.
Englishuser wrote:
Simply because the world's sole superpower happens to be an English-speaking nation it doesn't mean that it is any more fair to have other people learn English so as to be able to communicate with people from overseas.How do you define fairness? I mean, anybody can choose whom to communicate with and in which language. If you want to speak Esperanto to your friends, who holds you back?
Englishuser wrote:
Another solution of mine would be to make English everyone's native language.A solution to what? And how exactly would you make English everyone's native language?
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Englishuser
Banned wrote:
Why exactly do you want me to convince you of anything? It's a matter of facing reality I guess rather than trying to convince anyone. People communicate more in English than in Esperanto simply because English is a natural language while Esperanto is an artificual attempt to fabricate a language. Enlish is alive and grows while Esperanto is an experiment. Just take a look at the world around you and sooner or later you will realize this fact too. Esperanto will never be a global means of communication because nobody speaks it as their native language. How many people think and dream in Esperanto? English is not any more natural to a vast majority of people than is Esperanto. For a Portuguese or a Saudi Arabian English is just as strange as Esperanto, and in fact these people would probably pick up Esperanto much faster than English.
Banned wrote: How do you define fairness? I mean, anybody can choose whom to communicate with and in which language. If you want to speak Esperanto to your friends, who holds you back? It is unfair that those who're native speakers of English needn't learn an international language as their native tongue is pretty much considered "the global language" these days. Esperanto is the solution. Should Esperanto be more widely used as an international lingua franca non-English-speaking people would be more equal when talking to Americans or Brits, for instance. When a Colombian, for instance, talks to an American, they'll most likely be speaking English. Their interlocutor will usually master the language better than they, which means he or she is a more powerful communicator. This is not always the case, of course, as people can acquire near-native or native-like skills in a foreign language, but this doesn't change the fact that you had to work very hard to acquire such sophisticated skills in a second language whilst others got it all almost automatically, without the need to put so much conscious effort to learn their English.
Banned wrote:
A solution to what? And how exactly would you make English everyone's native language? A solution to a communicational problem. Every single day people all over the world, from all walks of life, find themselves in a tough position as they do not speak English well enough. As it is, it's difficult to lead a life without knowing a word of English. So, how would I make English everyone's native language? Well, how do you make your children native speakers of another language than the one you learnt as an infant?
As I know you're most aware of there is a website called [removed by mod]. What's your relationship with the site mentioned? Which of the moderators am I talking to?