errors & mistakes in language

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Amatoolah

#173342 Thu, 22 Dec 05 10:20 PM

Hello everybody, please i have a question concerning errors . could you plssibly tell me what is the difference between error, mistake , and fault . How can a teacher deal with these errors thank you in advance .

Amatoolah

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Philip

#173550 Fri, 23 Dec 05 04:08 PM

Amatoolah wrote:

Hello everybody, please i have a question concerning errors . could you plssibly tell me what is the difference between error, mistake , and fault . How can a teacher deal with these errors thank you in advance .

For me, 'error' and 'mistake' are interchangeable. 'Fault' is slightly different, usually used to assign blame. [It is my fault that the bread didn't rise. My error/mistake was in leaving out the yeast.]

Philip

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At reise er at leve! - H. C. Andersen

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My2sense

#173718 Fri, 23 Dec 05 11:22 PM

Philip wrote:
Amatoolah wrote:

Hello everybody, please i have a question concerning errors . could you plssibly tell me what is the difference between error, mistake , and fault . How can a teacher deal with these errors thank you in advance .

For me, 'error' and 'mistake' are interchangeable. 'Fault' is slightly different, usually used to assign blame. [It is my fault that the bread didn't rise. My error/mistake was in leaving out the yeast.]

There is a distinction between error and mistake in linguistics. Simply said: A mistake i.e. a slip of the tongue can be self-corrected and an error cannot. An error is systematic i.e. likely to occur repeatedly and not recognized (known) by the learner.

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julielai

#173787 Sat, 24 Dec 05 04:36 AM

One can find data reporting errors in a computer system, but they are not considered "mistakes".

But if I've married a guy in a rush and then regret it, I can say, "This is the biggest mistake of my life!" Wink [;)]

Note also: error in judgement (not "mistake in judgement")

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Sam C

#174146 Sat, 24 Dec 05 09:49 PM

My2sense wrote:
There is a distinction between error and mistake in linguistics. Simply said: A mistake i.e. a slip of the tongue can be self-corrected and an error cannot. An error is systematic i.e. likely to occur repeatedly and not recognized (known) by the learner.

put another way, if you subscribe to the competence-performance dichotomy, an error pertains to a person's linguistic competence, a mistake to their linguistic performance. not that all linguists consistently observe the distinction or that it's always useful, but just that it's there, with some time under its belt, should you feel it would prove useful in explaining something. search term: 'error analysis'.

sam, wishing all a very merry christmas

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Philip

#176766 Fri, 30 Dec 05 11:10 PM

My2sense wrote:
Philip wrote:
Amatoolah wrote:

Hello everybody, please i have a question concerning errors . could you plssibly tell me what is the difference between error, mistake , and fault . How can a teacher deal with these errors thank you in advance .

For me, 'error' and 'mistake' are interchangeable. 'Fault' is slightly different, usually used to assign blame. [It is my fault that the bread didn't rise. My error/mistake was in leaving out the yeast.]

There is a distinction between error and mistake in linguistics. Simply said: A mistake i.e. a slip of the tongue can be self-corrected and an error cannot. An error is systematic i.e. likely to occur repeatedly and not recognized (known) by the learner.

I think of the beautiful Elizabethan language in the prayer "we have erred and strayed like lost sheep": does this mean that the errant sinner has no chance because he is likely to repeat his sins, even worse that he doesn't know what his sins are?

Philip

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Sam C

#176788 Sat, 31 Dec 05 12:06 AM

Philip wrote:
I think of the beautiful Elizabethan language in the prayer "we have erred and strayed like lost sheep": does this mean that the errant sinner has no chance because he is likely to repeat his sins, even worse that he doesn't know what his sins are?

yes, i'll stake money on it, if you, Philip, can find me an elizabethan linguist specialising in error analysis.

sam, to err is human

Sam C

My2sense

#177023 Sat, 31 Dec 05 11:25 AM

Sam C wrote:
Philip wrote:
I think of the beautiful Elizabethan language in the prayer "we have erred and strayed like lost sheep": does this mean that the errant sinner has no chance because he is likely to repeat his sins, even worse that he doesn't know what his sins are?
yes, i'll stake money on it, if you, Philip, can find me an elizabethan linguist specialising in error analysis.

sam, to err is human

I'll second that Sam.

My2sense

Anonymous

#181209 Tue, 10 Jan 06 06:01 PM

For me, 'error' is made unconciesly and is corrected by the same person who has made the 'error'. error is in the level of performance.But 'mistake' is because of the lack of knowledge in that case.So, mistake is in the level of competence. Non of the above is intentional. 'Fault' is completely different from these two. It is because of being careless or doing something intentionally,in this case the person who had done the fault have to be blamed.

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