Ethical tight corner

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Antonija  #204090  Tue, 07 Mar 06 07:33 PM

Is it ok to say it in the context?:

"Can Viagra stimulate extramarital affairs,” it was another ethical tight corner, that I got myself into.

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davkett  #204106  Tue, 07 Mar 06 08:07 PM

I wouldn't use stimulate.  Maybe-- trigger.

and--

...it was another ethical tight corner I'd gotten myself into.

  
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Antonija  #204309  Wed, 08 Mar 06 10:37 AM
Thank you Davkett
  
Clive  #204454  Wed, 08 Mar 06 11:49 PM

Hi guys,

Personally, I'd prefer to say 'a tight ethical corner' rather than 'an ethical tight corner'.

I'm also going to ignore the double entendre that I see lurking in this thread.

Best wishes, Clive

  
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davkett  #204470  Thu, 09 Mar 06 12:25 AM
 Clive wrote:

 I'd prefer to say 'a tight ethical corner' rather than 'an ethical tight corner'.

Clive, I don't agree.  The common idiom is 'tight corner'.  Here it is described as an 'ethical tight corner'.  There could be artistic tight corners, religious tight corners, legal tight corners, psychological tight corners, etc.  On the other hand, I've never heard of an 'ethical corner'--tight or loose.

  
Pchuang  #204487  Thu, 09 Mar 06 02:18 AM

ethical tight corner

a better choice.

  
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Clive  #204504  Thu, 09 Mar 06 03:22 AM

Hi guys,

Yes, I understand why you disagree with me. I think that my suggestion is in line with the standard order of adjectives, while yours is that the idiomatic nature of the phrase requires the two words (tight + corner)to be kept together. So, it's a question of which of these two considerations is the more important.

My feeling is that the idiom 'tight corner' is so well-known that it is not straining it to insert another adjective. In fact, to me it seems to 'freshen up' what is a slightly tired idiom by making the reader think about it for an extra millisecond.

However, style is a subjective matter. I certainly wouldn't want to get into a tight grammatical corner by arguing that I'm right and you're wrong.

Best wishes, Clive

(I still haven't commented on the double entendre aspect of this thread.)

  
davkett  #204636  Thu, 09 Mar 06 03:22 PM
 Clive wrote:

My feeling is that the idiom 'tight corner' is so well-known that it is not straining it to insert another adjective. In fact, to me it seems to 'freshen up' what is a slightly tired idiom by making the reader think about it for an extra millisecond.

As expected, a fine rebuttal, Clive.  I like the importance of a millesecond.

As to the rule of adjective order--

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where would ethical go?

  
Grammar Geek  #204652  Thu, 09 Mar 06 04:42 PM

I've never seen the rule of adjective order before.  Where did it come from? How commonly is it used?

(The only one I know is BANGS for French adjectives that go before the noun.)

  
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