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nicora  +  63903 Tue, 28 Dec 04 11:08 PM
Couldn't you say that a simile is a form of metaphor?

http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20030623.html

"A simile, also called an open comparison, is a form of metaphor that compares two different things to create a new meaning. "

Wouldn't you be speaking metaphorically by using a simile?
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Actually nicora, a simile is not a metaphor. A metaphor is a figure of speech in which two unlike objects are implicitly compared without the use of "like" or "as."
A simile uses "like" or "as" in the description.

Quite frequently in our glorious language the term metaphor is used to include all figures of speech. Therefore, the expression, "metaphorically speaking" refers to speaking figuratively rather than literally. However, it isn't technically correct.
nicora  +  63905 Tue, 28 Dec 04 11:59 PM
So then it can't be a metaphor if it uses "like" or "as"?

That means, to me, that a simile actually IS a metaphor without the words "like" or "as".

"Your love is an ocean"

"Your love is like an ocean"

Both of those statements have the same meaning. Neither of those statements are litteral, so wouldn't they be metaphorical? The only difference is the word "like".

"However, it isn't technically correct. "

Are you sure about that? Maybe you could post a reference of how it is not technically correct.
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The two are very similar. They are both nominal figurative statements that largely serve the same purpose. You say " The only difference is the word "like."" and while this is true, the difference in words is small but the difference is meaning is huge. As is stated in this paper done at Northwestern University:


http://www.psych.nwu.edu/psych/people/faculty/gentner/newpdfpapers/ZharikovGentner02.pdf

The difference is reflected in the way we feel after we read the words. Many times metaphors portray deeper meaning for the reader.

As for the second part of your response, using a simile and using the term "metaphorically speaking" is technically incorrect because it's simply redundant. People will use a metaphor and add "metaphorically speaking" to assure the listener that they are speaking figuratively not literally. When they use a simile it's already clear that it's figurative.

Someone could say:

"Your brother is a pig" then say "metaphorically speaking" to clear up the fact that we don't literally think the brother is a pig.

When we say "Your brother is like a pig" the word "like" clears up the fact that we don't think he is a literal pig. Thus adding "metaphorically speaking" would only be redundant.

This is why I said it's techinically incorrect.






Guest, 4 yr 301 days ago
The girl was a picture
Guest, 4 yr 299 days ago
Hi,
I really like the metaphor

'The curtain of night fell'
Guest, 4 yr 290 days ago
Would you have examples of metaphors for home, house, plants, garden, human, landscape, building, work or dress??
Angel55629, 4 yr 285 days ago
can someone give me two metaphors about my name which is Amanda please? I really need help.
Mister Micawber  +  70517 Fri, 28 Jan 05 07:02 AM

I posted this on another thread also: there are a lot of metaphors listed at METAPHOR COLORWIZE.

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