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Anonymous  +  420776 Tue, 18 Sep 07 10:27 PM
Hi there!

There is a sentence: We weren't explained to why he had done such terrible things.

And here is the question: is to optional or incorrect ? Can we get rid of it in sentences like the one above ?

Thanks in advance
Yankee  +  420780 Tue, 18 Sep 07 10:37 PM
Hi Anon

No, the word 'to' is not optional. However, even with the word 'to', the sentence is extremely awkward.  It's not a natural-sounding passive sentence.

This version of the passive would be much better:
Why he had done such terrible things wasn't explained to us.

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Clive  +  420781 Tue, 18 Sep 07 10:39 PM

Hi,

There is a sentence: We weren't explained to why he had done such terrible things.

And here is the question: is to optional or incorrect ? Can we get rid of it in sentences like the one above ?

You are not using the passive correctly here. You can't say 'We weren't explained . . . '

You need to say 'Something was not explained to us', thus - 

Why he had done such terrible things was not explained to us.

Best wishes, Clive

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CalifJim  +  421169 Wed, 19 Sep 07 06:48 PM
We weren't explained to why he had done such terrible things.
This seems to be an incorrect version of the following sentence:

We were given no explanation as to why he had done such terrible things.

I'm not sure that explanation as to is the best grammar, but people do use it.  explained as to or explained to, as used in the original sentence, are not used, however.

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Cool Breeze  +  421259 Wed, 19 Sep 07 09:46 PM
 Anonymous wrote:

There is a sentence: We weren't explained to why he had done such terrible things.

Your sentence is incorrect. The structure you are using is possible with some verbs but not with explain. There is no rule or reason for this, English just isn't the most logical of languages. It is sometimes possible to use either the object or the indirect object as the grammatical subject of a passive clause:

Money was given [to] us.
We were given money.


If a verb takes a preposition, it must be included in the passive clause:

We were laughed at.

Explain
is followed by to if there is an indirect object:
Explain to everybody what he meant.

You have written a grammatically similar sentence but unfortunately it is not possible to use explain in this way. Your sentence is grammatically correctly formed but since no one uses explain that way, it must be considered wrong. Sad [:(]

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Yankee  +  421263 Wed, 19 Sep 07 09:53 PM
Hi Jim

I saw the main problem in the fact that we always use the word 'to' with the verb 'explain' when we want to mention the person on the receiving end of an explanation.. In other words, you can say "He explained the problem to me" but you cannot say "He explained me the problem". 

That is unlike this pattern:  "He gave the information to me." and "He gave me the information." 
In this type of sentence, you can use either 'me' (I) or 'information' to start the passive sentence: 
I was given the information
-OR-
The information was given to me.


EDIT:
Thanks, CB.  I didn't see your post before I posted.
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