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Skipper    725510 Wed, 19 Jul 06 07:42 PM

"I wouldn't have gone for Skip, there. Akiva Goldsman, maybe. But that Oscar he's got kinda puts a chip in the edge of the joke. Blair"

Other than ruining a newsgroup with your bile, is there anything you've written that anyone has paid any attention to whatsoever?

It's rather obvious you don't understand psychology at all, or you might practice decency on occasion. I've never seen you demonstrate that once. Is your name listed on Wikipedia under "ego" Blair?
Sparktom    725738 Sat, 22 Jul 06 03:06 PM


"You can easily add Brokeback Mountain to that list. A more utter bore than that could possibly be found on some planet in this universe, but here on Earth.. nah. V. Nilsen"

Gawd, how correct you are, Sir. I hated it.
Can you imagine this being pitched?
"Cowpokes, buggery, and Randy Quaid is attached for art's sake. It can't lose."
Exec, "Yay yus!"
"Nobody has done anything like this before ... I can't imagine why. It would unfold with such beauty and sweet sweet buggery." Exec, "And cows or sheep? I like sheep."
"Up on the mount, so lonely, so alone..."
Exec, "Yay yus. Are those loafers Ralph Lauren?"
"Payless. Anyway, with the right DP and location ...breathtaking vistas. If we find sensitive actors..."
Exec, "Maybe Broderick and Fierstein would be interested ... spicy in chaps ... eh?"
"We'll see. Would you have your girl bring another latte?" Exec, "Sheep. A cameo by Ralph Lauren. Chaps. Did you say Quaid comes along?"
"It took two ludes and a bottle of Jose but he signed." Exec, "You can get ludes?"

Anyway, I offer "Bubba Ho-tep" for the list. I expected a credit to Alan Smithee at the end.
Spark
Sparktom    725739 Sat, 22 Jul 06 03:37 PM

A mafia movie named, "Flipping."
The predictable result of a low budget effort where the star, the writer, the director are the same unknown and talentless narcissist. I'd loop "Shakes the Clown" through an entire weekend before viewing that stinker again.
Spark
Bed Sores    725755 Sat, 22 Jul 06 05:47 PM

These seemed pretty painful when I sat through at least some of them:

Freddy Got Fingered
The Fast and the Furious
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
and honorable mention goes to (just because I want the villagers to burn me at the stake)... The Big Lebowski - which if anyone hasn't seen it, you can get the full experience in a mere 2 minutes and 14 seconds here:
H-Y
to be fair, I have yet to like a movie where I've read and enjoyed the script prior to watching the film, this is in reference to the Big Lebowski, not Freddie Got Fingered
Sparktom    725757 Sat, 22 Jul 06 06:26 PM

"These seemed pretty painful when I sat through at least some of them: Freddy Got Fingered snip"

Now, we're talking! I'd forgotten this gem. Wow.

Was Green married to Drew during the making of this abomination? A wholesome homestead that must have been. Aside from masterbating farm animals, Tom's probably a fairly normal guy. This is one of those rare features that I paid $3.95 for (pay per view with cable) and after 30 minutes switched over to a CSI rerun. I manage to sit through most things if paying the premium rate. This thing is another example of star/writer/director gone horribly foul.
I have another one:
Meatballs 4
Not that the previous "Meatball" fare could be considered better, but I've not seen 2, or 3. How could they have gone wrong with the thespian stylings of Corey Feldman? Come to think of it, if I go to Corey's list of credits, I think I'll be adding to this list.
Spark
Hercule Platini    725772 Sat, 22 Jul 06 08:37 PM

[nq:1]and honorable mention goes to (just because I want the villagers to burn me at the stake)... The Big Lebowski - which if anyone hasn't seen it, you can get the full experience in a mere 2 minutes and 14 seconds here: [youtube:gU2ZgaQ] H-Y[/nq]
I didn't like The Big Lebowski either. I found myself actively not caring what happened to any of the characters, and wishing the film would hurry up and end so I could go home. I saw it on May 16th 1998 and never want to see it ever again.
Films to avoid:
The Devil's Rejects - because if there was ever a film that didn't need making, let alone sequelling, it was House of 1000 Corpses.

The Truth About Charlie - because Stumpy Wahlberg has zero charm, panache or lightness of touch, Charade's wonderful gallery of heavies (James Coburn, Walter Matthau AND George Kennedy! In the same movie!) have been replaced by an anonymous handful of Special Forces badasses, the score is a near-constant drone of "world music", half the movie is shot on video for no good reason, and the magic and romance of Paris by night is conveyed by a decrepit Charles Aznavour shuffling into shot while an accordian honks on the soundtrack.
The Musketeer - because it's just a bad idea to merge the romantic French swashbuckler and the wirework martial arts genres, and it's jarring to see Arthur Fowler from the BBC's EastEnders soap opera playing a perverted innkeeper.
My Blue Heaven - because it's got Steve Martin AND Rick Moranis AND Joan Cusack and it's still rubbish.
There are others. My lists go back to 1st June 1984 (I saw BREAKDANCE, and at the time I gave it three stars out of five! Bet it wouldn't get that if I saw it again now.) and since then I've seen 762 movies that I've given the minimum one star to. Many of those films, though, are horror junk from the likes of Fred Olen Ray or Joe D'Amato; dubbed kung fu videos, miscellaneous Troma atrocities and films that weren't supposed to be all that good anyway (later entries in the Friday 13th, Hellraiser and Howling series, for example).

Hercule Platini
Alan Brooks    725790 Sat, 22 Jul 06 09:51 PM

[nq:2]and honorable mention goes to (just because I want the ... a mere 2 minutes and 14 seconds here: [youtube:gU2ZgaQ] H-Y[/nq]
"I didn't like The Big Lebowski either."

You guys know not to come to me for character references, right?

This is not just about... It's not... This affects us all! It's about drawing a line in the sand; across this LINE YOU DO NOT... This is not just about rug-pissers, Dude.
Alan Brooks

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Skipper    725800 Sat, 22 Jul 06 10:25 PM

"You guys know not to come to me for character references, right? This is not just about... It's not... This ... just about rug-pissers, Dude. Alan Brooks A with an Underwood alt.fan.not.into.the.whole.brevity.thing MWSM FAQ: http://www.panix.com/~mwsm/faq.html Filtering Trolls: http://www.panix.com/~mwsm/trolls.html"

Jeff Bridges best role. Even more goofily good than he was in Starman.
Avoid normal situations.    727460 Fri, 11 Aug 06 10:31 PM

"A bit of 'water cooler' discussion from the office has followed me home, and I'm extending it to here. For ... and otherwise lesseing your quality of life. What films would you include? The reasoning behind the decisions could be humorous/edifying."

Ooh what a good question.
I could go on all day with examples, but I'll stop at ten egregious examples. In no particular order:
1) Amistad - Stodgy and insipid enough to kill almost any film, plus itseems like such a complete waste to make a $40 million "message movie" in which the Big Message is (wait for it)... "slavery is wrong". I'll never understand where Spielberg and the boys found the cojones to make such a bold and controversial statement.
Especially emblematic of what's wrong with this movie is the scene where Djimon Hounsou begs the court for his freedom. This might have worked if he had simply stood and said, "Give us free!" once or twice. Instead, the camera just sits on him as he stands, makes his eyes bug out of his head, and generally tries to look as pathetic as possible while exclaiming, "GIVE US US FREE! GIVE US US FREE!" while the John Williams music swells. That bit ought to be in some multimedia dictionary somewhere as an illustration of "driving the point home with a sledgehammer" in motion pictures.

Basically, this picture is everything I hate about prestige movies.
2) Scary Movie - Unfunny, tasteless, and anti-intellectual in a way that'sfar more distasteful that any of the gross-out jokes.

Basically, this picture is everything I hate about "pure entertainment" movies.
3) Atanarjuat - Three hours of badly-made tramping through the snow thatwe're all supposed to love because it's made by real Eskimos and therefore so much more pure than corrupt, evil Hollywood productions.

And look at the kind of attitude that people have about this kind of film:

http://tinyurl.com/ngvbz
Movies like this are the reason that 99% of all independent films don't make any money, and why there are men and women all over the world who have films that they hocked their dogs to make rotting undistributed on a shelf in their garages.
Basically, this picture is everything that I hate about "art" movies.4) The Beyond - Lucio Fulci's "masterpiece", on account of the fact thatit's less of a piece of crap than his other movies. EdWoodian total lack of attention to detail (the infamous "Do Not Entry" sign in a film that's supposed to be set in the U.S., the hero forgetting and remembering at random to shoot the zombies in the head, the "demonically possessed" doggy that has the unmistakable "Can we go play now? Huh?" expression on his furry little face right after he's torn out somebody's throat, etc.), yet without the hysterical overacting and underlying good nature that makes films like Plan 9 from Outer Space so endearing.

To top it off, there's the spider- attack scene with the BLATANT use of fake spiders that's the dead giveaway that this is really a cheap exploitation film, in which nobody really cared about what the audience was going to think. Signor Fulci might well be looking down from Heaven (or up from someplace else :-) ) laughing his head off at all those shmoes over in alt.horror who have been praising him as some kind of unsung genius for years.
5) Zombie - The usual Fulci ineptitude, only this time he's ripping offGeorge A. Romero more brazenly. This one is especially hideous because it features a haggard-looking Richard Johnson as the evil scientist, who once upon a time was Dr. Markway in the original version of The Haunting .

Some films are more fun to see if you're a big horror fan. Some are much more painful.
In the night. In the dark...6) Bloodsucking Freaks - Back in the early 80s, when horror films were bigand a new slasher movie was getting released about once a week, there was a lot of baloney in the press about how evil these movies are and how they were corrupting America's youth. If you actually go back and see these silly things, however ( He Knows You're Alone , The Funhouse , The House on Sorority Row , etc.), you quickly discover that the real problem with these things is not they're nasty.

It's that they're *boring*. Most of them stick to the proven formula (pretty young people, masked killer, stalk and slash, etc.) like a religious ritual, and are about as entertaining. If they actually were evil or sick, they might actually be interesting. Bloodsucking Freaks really *is* sick. In a serious way. All it is is naked women getting brutally killed, sometimes in ways that are supposed to be funny but which are actually quite witless. It's about as fun as putting your arm down a garbage disposal.
I remember catching this on the big screen, giving it my customary half-hour grace period, and then walking out... only to run into none other than Joel M. Reed, the writer/producer/director, who'd showed up for a Q & A. I've been a big movie nerd long enough to meet and shake the hand of many directors and other folks involved with this business, but this is the only time I've run into a director whose film I'd just seen and wanted to walk right up to him and scream in his face, "YOU SICK ! I'D LIKE TO HIT YOU!"

See previous comment about how affinity can work against you. Movies like this give all us horror fans a bad name. I am a man, not a ghoul, thank you very much.
7) Angel Eyes - This movie reminds me of a lot of the scripts I've readby other struggling wannabe screenwriters. My theory is that there's a whole bunch of people out there who think it'd be really K3Wl to be a scriptwriter, but who aren't very talented and who don't even have very much to say. So they wind up basically repeating what little with which they've come up over and over again until it makes feature length.
I remember the exact moment I walked out... the swimming scene where Jennifer Lopez tells Jim Caviezel: "Kiss me someplace I've never been kissed before."

That line is... so unspeakably awful that, at that moment, I thought, "Argh! That does it!" and practically ran out of the theatre.
8) The Man with Bogart's Face - A good example of the one-joke movie whereeven that one joke isn't very good. Robert Sacchi does look almost exactly like Humphrey Bogart, but that gag of him dressing and acting like Bogey in modern-day LA just gets beaten into the ground so quickly. Not even Sybil Danning's striptease is very good.
9) Ginger and Fred - Marcello Mastroianni and Giulietta Masina standingaround, and a whole lot of digressions into loud, tasteless commercials and down paths that lead nowhere, including ten minutes or so spent on some guy who does sexual favors for criminals. This is art? What the hell was Fellini thinking?!
10) The Guardian - The 1990 William Friedkin horror film. Its main pointof interest is that it's an unusually... ah... pure film. Not one scary moment. Not one interesting characterization. Not one intriguing idea. Not one clever line of dialogue. It's so rare that a movie manages to be such a complete vacuity.

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