Flapping or glottalization?

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Traffix  #440151  Thu, 08 Nov 07 10:08 AM

One of my students raised a question about an articulation of English phrase.

1. Flapping

When you pronouncing "it was" in casual, connected speech, could it be sounded like "idwas" or "irwas"? Like "water" as "warer", or "fatty" as "fady".

2. Glottalization

In the same situation, can glottalization occur and pronounce as "it<glottal stop>was"? Like "button" as "bu<glottal stop>un" or "mountain" as "moun<glotal stop>un".

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Zerox  #440311  Thu, 08 Nov 07 06:29 PM
What it comes to flapping, it is prevalent in AE pronunciation. Therefore, 'writer' might sound like 'wider' etc. At least, this is how I have understood it.

I'm not sure about that glottalisation either. Hypothetically, I guess one could say that "it's <glottal stop> empty" if someone ask more to drink, and the bottle is empty and you have answered the question already but the person didn't catch it.
  
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Kooyeen  #440357  Thu, 08 Nov 07 09:56 PM
Hi,

"writer" doesn't sound like "wider", it sounds like "rider".
Anyway, T's are sometimes tapped. It usually happens when T's are between two vowels and the following vowel is not stressed at all (not even a secondary stress on it). Example: Betty bought a bit of...
It often happens in other cases too, for example when the following sound is not really a pure vowel sound, but you could say it's "almost" a vowel. Examples are L's and R's. Examples: better, heater, bottle, little.

W-sounds and Y-sounds don't lead to tapped T's.
It was ---> I(t) was - the T is not released/glottal stop
about you ---> abow chyoo - T and Y form a kind of CH sound.

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CalifJim  #440699  Fri, 09 Nov 07 08:27 PM

1. Flapping

When you pronouncing "it was" in casual, connected speech, could it be sounded like "idwas" or "irwas"? No.  Like "water" as "warer", or "fatty" as "fady".

2. Glottalization

In the same situation, can glottalization occur and pronounce as "it<glottal stop>was"? Yes. This is the usual AmE pronunciation. ("Unreleased T") Like "button" as "bu<glottal stop>un" or "mountain" as "moun<glotal stop>un".

See Post:227657.

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Anonymous  #443760  Sun, 18 Nov 07 03:01 AM
American English comes mostly from British English but long before Received Pronunciation. In British English, we often hear 'bottle' as 'bo - ul' with no indication that any 't' existed in the word. This is a common feature of London accents, especially cockney.
  
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