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matthewg
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Wed, 29 Sep 04 12:46 PM
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Athelas D'orion
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Thu, 30 Sep 04 11:14 AM
Hi Matthewq,
Now i see the difference more clearly (though i think i need to go through those bible quotations again later), my gratitude for thy help ![Smile [:)]](/emoticons/emotion-1.gif)
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Guest,
5 yr 29 days ago
I had some knowledge of this one particular line although I had never read the poem itself. I read a spiritual interpretation of this poem which gave real depth to the words. Spiritually we are all a part of nature and there is a divine thread that runs through all things, so when he says
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Therefore, send not to know,
For whom the bell tolls,
It tolls for thee."
this is what he is referring to. So when that bell tolls to tell of someone's passing it also tolls for you because we are all a part of the same creation.
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PoorRichard
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Fri, 15 Oct 04 02:07 PM
A minor correction to Guest's post 07-09-2004:
'Fair daffodils, we weep to see' etc is by Robert Herrick.
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Guest,
5 yr 21 days ago
could you tell me who wrote a novel with the phrae 'ask not for who the bell tolls;the bell tolls for thee'
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edwy
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Mon, 18 Oct 04 03:19 PM
Just to confuse non-native English speakers still further, there is a 19th-century poem by Thomas Hood which ends, if I remember correctly:
His death, which happened in his berth,
At forty odd befell
They went and told the sexton
And the sexton tolled the bell
Regards,
Edwy
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Guest,
4 yr 336 days ago
john donne is a methaphysical poet of 17th century, not 16th. and the phrase can be understood as means of a response to hemingway.
Guest,
4 yr 329 days ago
This phrase was used in a poem by John Donn in the 15th century. What is its meaning?
Guest,
4 yr 326 days ago
The 15th century? Donne was born in 1572 and died in 1631, so to clear up when he wrote, it was in the 16th and 17th century, and many of his more well know works are from the early 17th century.
Donne was not responding to Hemingway, perhaps you meant to say Hemingway was responding to Donne? Hemingway was born just before the turn of the century, that is, 19th to 20th.
It didn't appear in a novel, as someone above asked, but in a sermon, which was quoted very nicely high on the page. The meaning was explained nicely in that and several other posts.
It's a brilliant line.
Cheers
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