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Guest,
4 yr 303 days ago
yes, do not concern yourself with finding out who has just died because that could be you next and we are all part of a common humanity, inextricably linked, hence the line 'every man's death diminishes me'...I think this is a particularly telling poem at a time of Amercian isolationism & introspection, for what it's worth, from Peter in the UK
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Fri, 21 Jan 05 04:17 AM
Because the forums are cosmopolitan, there could be some confusion over date systems. I do know that Italians refer to 1500-1599 as the fifteenth century, 1700-1799 as the seventeenth century, etc.
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Guest,
4 yr 284 days ago
Hemingway's novel, "For Whom The Bell Tolls," tells the story of a gallant sacrifice by a hero in the Spanish Civil War.
In the movie version, Gary Cooper holds off army troops with a Lewis gun, buying time for his comrades, including his lover, Ingrid Bergman, to retreat.
Cooper's character's farewell dialog embodies the essence of Donne's sermon.
Sorry, there's no "For Whom The Bell Tolls II, The Sequel."
Guest,
4 yr 281 days ago
Hemingway got it from John Ruskin, in connection with "No man is an island."
"Therefore, send not to know for whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee."
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Tue, 01 Feb 05 08:28 AM
Hemingway's novel, "For Whom the Bell Tolls" was essentially a cry to humanity that the war against fascism in the 30's in Spain required the whole of humanity to rise and support the Spanish republic. The world ignored this warning of this struggle and the descent into World War II was the result. Hemingway's cry was in close conformance with Donne's.
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Guest,
4 yr 251 days ago
"Ask not for whom the bell tolls, for it tolls for thee" refers to the funeral bells that would ring at the church everytime someone died. A man was faced with death and asked death who are the bells ringing for. Death replys that do not ask who because it is you that they ring for. You helped me to. I had a paper and this quote was in it. Thanks!
-Slim
Guest,
4 yr 249 days ago
The significance of that line is infinitely more profound than just Death telling someone not to ask for whom the bell tolls because it may be tolling for them. It is a complete and unabiding universal appeal for everyone on the planet to get involved in the affairs of humanity in a very benevolent manner to make the world a better place before it's too late. What Donne is essentially saying is that we are all here for the same reason, and that reason is to love and care for each other and make life itself more liveable. He's pointing out that we are all part of the same human fabric, and everytime one of us dies, that beautiful fabric is weakened, therefore it is our absolute duty to keep that fabric as alive and happy as possible for as long as we can and as much as we can. The vehicles which we must incorporate in order to accomplish this are social consciousness and love. God Bless John Donne.
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Sat, 05 Mar 05 02:48 PM
Ask not for whom the bell tolls, for it tolls for thee... It means that when a person dies, a part of u is also dying...
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Guest,
4 yr 233 days ago
This is a departure from English but since it came up, Italians refer to centuries very much like we do in English, e.g.:
1000-1099 = l'undicesimo secolo (i.e. eleventh century)
1100-1199 = il docicesimo secolo (i.e. twelfth century)
But from 1200 on,
1200-1299 = il tredicesimo secolo (i.e. thirteenth century) OR il Duecento (i.e. the two hundreds, whereas in English we would say the twelve hundreds)
So 1500-1599 is il sedicesimo secolo, which is sixteenth century, or il Seicento
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