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MrPedantic
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Mon, 01 Aug 05 07:42 AM
 Anonymous wrote: | | True enough, but that's not the true story. It's a line taken out of a poem by John Donne, 1624, Meditations 17. Please read it. |
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Just to keep things straight: it's from a sermon, not a poem.
MrP
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...opella forensis / adducit febris...
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Anonymous,
4 yr 81 days ago
Actually, there is a secret book of sexual positions that inspired John Donne to write those words...
Anonymous,
4 yr 55 days ago
Wrong, mate. It appears in the sermon, and is also the title of an Ernest Hemingway novel
Anonymous,
4 yr 47 days ago
The bell tolls (rings out) for a funeral, only one bell, not the whole carillon, and its sombre note can be heard for quite some distance. In a smaller community, One might be tempted to ask "For whom does the bell toll?" In the quotation, it hints that, although the bell is tolling out for one person who has died, the loss of one person is a loss to the whole of the human race; as if a piece of rock from a promontory (peninsula) had fallen into the sea, that would be a small loss to the promontory, on the face of it, but a loss, nevertheless , to the country the promontary is in, and the whole continent it is in, so a bell tolling at a funeral signifies a loss to all of us, therefore, send not to ask for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee (you).
If you expand this thought you might think that it means that even a small, seemingly insignificant, occurrence has an overall effect on the entire universe, however small.
Anonymous,
4 yr 43 days ago
| Guest wrote: | | This phrase was used in a poem by John Donn in the 15th century. What is its meaning? |
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It's am beginning of a book fron Hemingway..
Anonymous,
4 yr 40 days ago
If you're still struggling to get your head around the meaning of "for whom
the bell tolls", you might sympathise with King James I (a contemporary
of Donne) who said:
Dr Donne's poetry is like the peace of God...
it passeth all understanding
Anonymous,
4 yr 32 days ago
quote Donne: "ask not for whom the bell tolls... it tolls for thee."
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Stannum
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Sat, 29 Oct 05 07:29 AM
my suspicion is that the ambiguous nature of the poetry is the very reason that it is still being discussed
robert
as i seek definition i may find meaning
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Anonymous,
4 yr ago
interesting thread.. I came accross this when I was looking for the meaning of a Metallica song 'For whom the Bell Tolls'
This stuff is great, one artist leans on another and that sort of thing.
I can just picture James Hetfield sitting down to a beer and reading 16th Century poetry...lol
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