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Citox  +  148815 Mon, 17 Oct 05 04:52 PM
 I think A is right.by the way ,a question for julielai,are you chinese? if you are,please contact me i'm a boy in beijing
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Anonymous, 3 yr 149 days ago
I agree.  You cannot get something for a state of being.  It's either free or not.  Same with free gift.  All gifts are free or they're not gifts, right?
Clive  +  235427 Tue, 13 Jun 06 05:12 AM

Hi guys,

I think that people who say 'He got it for free' are mistakenly influenced by the structure 'He got it for five dollars'.

Best wishes, Clive

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Anonymous, 1 yr 316 days ago
Three cheers for Grammar Granny.  Free is correct.  For free is POOR GRAMMAR and shouldn't be used.  Grammar needs to be brought back into elementary schools.  The problem is that there are probably not enough teachers who understand the english language.
Lawyee  +  457833 Fri, 28 Dec 07 01:06 PM
Since this is a legal section of the Forum, it should be noted that none of the aforementioned should be used in legal texts. They are not proper and accurate enough (although "free" is gramatically correct). Try to use "without consideration" or "free of charge" instead. By the way, what is free of charge... except of diseases maybe?Smile [:)]
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Hummingbird, 1 yr 311 days ago

I think since native speakers normally say it, one can speak it but not use it in writing. Smile [:)]

Anonymous, 1 yr 295 days ago
It's free, not for free
it's one of the first things you learn in a (good) communications course.
Grammar Geek  +  465934 Fri, 18 Jan 08 06:25 PM

Interesting. I would have said one the first things you learn in a good communications course is the importance of understanding your audience and making sure you select the words and medium most likely to make your message understood. I would have thought they'd save things like that for the "pedantic editing" section of the course and not put that up front.

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Alienvoord  +  467464 Tue, 22 Jan 08 04:01 PM
 Grammar Granny wrote:
I was told by a professional editor that 'for free' was incorrect, no matter how much it is in common use.


They must have a strange definition of "incorrect".


  In the first place it is redundant.


Redundancy needs some better PR. These are all redundant:

three different ways
start over again
These five passages have not been picked out because they are especially bad... I number them so that I can refer back to them - Orwell, Politics and the English Language

There are places where we cannot substitute "free" for "for free". Well we can, but it gives a different meaning:

1a It seemed best to find a way to live for free.
1b It seemed best to find a way to live free

2a The hat they throw in extra for free
2b The hat they throw in extra free

3a They will have the run of the inn for free
3b They will have the run of the inn free

The b sentences all have different meanings than their a counterparts.

Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of English Usage says "This idiom is well established in general prose, and you can safely disregard the objections. It is not used in writings of high solemnity, however." (page 458)
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