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nona the brit  +  170798 Sat, 17 Dec 05 12:25 PM
I'm very worried about my trifle; the jelly won't set.
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Forbes  +  170816 Sat, 17 Dec 05 01:28 PM

The answer to this question depends on whether you are a botanist or a cook.

To a botanist a fruit is the ripened ovary of a plant. This would include all sorts of things that you will not find on a supermarket shelf, whether under "vegetables" or "fruit".

To a cook - well we all know what the difference is between fruit and vegetables until we  ask the question. Even a botanist (apart perhaps from a very annoying one) is not going to complain if s/he finds peppers in the vegetable section and rhubarb in the fruit section.

 

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Phuongninhbao  +  170821 Sat, 17 Dec 05 01:40 PM

I'm very interested about this subject.  First, I usually make salad. And I should use tomatoes, cucumber,and basil instead of lettuce.It should be called vegetables because we eat them for a meal. Cauliflower is used for cooking soup. Pepper is added flavour to meals. Secondly, in my country, we use Br.E, and all of students' book  have a lot  of pictures of vegetables: tomatoes, potatoes, cucumbers, spinach, pepper, cauliflowers, lettuce etc....And fruits are used for dessert such as water melon,  orange, mandarin, banana, peaches longan,mangoes, etc,,,,,, But lemon is used to added savour for some dishes. and also a fruit for lemon juice, so we call it fruit It seems Fruits are more delicious than Vegetables for some people.

Phuong Ninh

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TammyBaby  +  170930 Sat, 17 Dec 05 06:04 PM
 Hly2004 wrote:

If you eat it in your meal, or cook it, then it's veg

If you eat it as a fruit, it's called fruit.Big Smile [:D]



I strongly agree with you! It's not right to think that everything is clear! Wink [;)] The border between Fruits and Veg sometimes is very dim! Big Smile [:D]

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khoff  +  171161 Sun, 18 Dec 05 04:38 AM

I'm very worried about my trifle; the jelly won't set.

That's probably because you used the tomato jelly instead of the strawberry!

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nona the brit  +  171445 Sun, 18 Dec 05 07:33 PM

Hi Khoff,

I'm glad someone got my little joke Big Smile [:D]

LeicesterLad  +  171651 Mon, 19 Dec 05 06:04 AM

I was always told thar if it grew in the open air and contained the seeds of the plant (eg apple, orange, tomato) it was a fruit.

If it grew underground and was a root or tuber (eg potato, carrot) it was a vegetable

Leaves (eg cabbage, brussel sprouts, lettuce) were usually classed as vegetables, but should really be called leaves in their own right.

I'm not sure how you'd class peas though!

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LanguageLover  +  171661 Mon, 19 Dec 05 06:53 AM
According to this classification, LeicesterLad, aubergine, marrow,... also fall into fruits category! I thnk, if we are not botanists, then our cooking and eating habits determine which one belomgs to which group! And I guess the same implies to leaves/herbs distinction as well; if coriander is used just used for its flavor, it's a herb. But if it is used as a main ingredient, then it goes to leaves.   
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Phuongninhbao  +  172306 Tue, 20 Dec 05 03:36 PM
I agree with you. We can call vegetable or fruit, it depends on  what kind of meals you make or serve. It's also a name, it can be changed in different areas, aim or meals such as salad may be a dish of fruits and also a dish of vegetable .when we use  i t for dessert or a dish of meal.
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