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New2grammar

#517387 Thu, 22 May 08 06:09 PM

With gas and oil prices setting new records on a daily basis, many analysts are beginning to wonder whether anything can stop prices from rising.

I believe gas in the article means gasoline. My question is since gas is a product of oil why does the writer mention gas and oil together? Isn't gas redundant?

Just to make sure I understand oil prices correct, they include cooking oil price, engine oil price, gasoline oil price, etc, right?

Thanks!

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#517388 Thu, 22 May 08 06:11 PM

Gas here mens gas - NOT gasoline

Gasoline is derived from oil

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#517390 Thu, 22 May 08 06:12 PM

The author is referring to the price of cruide oil, and gasoline/petrol.

If I said the price of lumber and paper was increasing, would that be redundant?

What about lumber and wooden furniture?

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#517391 Thu, 22 May 08 06:13 PM

New2grammar
Just to make sure I understand oil prices correct, they include cooking oil price, engine oil price, gasoline oil price, etc, right?

Engine oil, industrial oil, gasoline, (Not sure about Diesel but I think so too)

BUT not cooking oil, which mostly comes from vegetable sources I believe

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#517394 Thu, 22 May 08 06:18 PM

New2grammar
My question is since gas is a product of oil why does the writer mention gas and oil together? Isn't gas redundant?

Well, maybe, but it's such a common locution I wouldn't stress too much over it.

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Just to make sure I understand oil prices correct, they include cooking oil price, engine oil price, gasoline oil price, etc, right?

The context of this article makes it clear that the author is referring only to crude oil and its derivatives, mainly gasoline. Certianly not cooking oil and the like.

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#517398 Thu, 22 May 08 06:24 PM

RayH
My question is since gas is a product of oil why does the writer mention gas and oil together? Isn't gas redundant?

I thought I'd explained above that gas is NOT a product derived from oil - Gasoline is.

So when the writer refers to Gas and Oil prices he is talking about 2 different commodities - so Gas here is not redundant.

Sorry if my earlier post wasn't clear

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#517399 Thu, 22 May 08 06:31 PM

I think GG has a point. Though gas (if the author means gasoline) is a derivative of oil/petrolium, it's still not redudandant in this context.

I don't think the price of natural gas is soaring because as far as I know 90 percent of any oil site is filled with natural gas and demand for natural gas is low because of transportation costs and extraction difficulties. So, logically, the writer means gasoline. Just my thought.