Georgia - a peaceloving genocide

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Osee  #557328  Thu, 21 Aug 08 10:14 PM

I am very glad to see, when coming to issues of your own country, you realized the western media  distortions (from your point of view).

According to what I have read about this event from western media, I kind of think Russia is wrong, but I will only take it as an information and will not speak up against Russia, because politics is complicated and it's hard for a common peson to make a conclusion out of what he or she has read.

In the light of this Georgia and Russia issue, I wish you could have a second thought about Tibet and China issue. You might say they are quit different, but the bottom line is the same, that is how people jump a gun to a conclusion and stick to it.

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I'm really shocked by what Georgia did!

Some

Dew 2007

Who needs the war at the day of the opening of the Olympic games?
I just don't understand anything. Can you explain your posotion?



I may be old-fashioned, but it all seems to be coming from the US.

Hey, you know what's noteworthy? The biggest news sources such as BBC, CNN, SkyNews did NOT even care to say it was Georgian troops that started the agression againts Ossetians, and that's why Russian tanks entered Ossetia. The western news agencies simply seem to be wanting to show that Russia is the agressor. (:@) Angry For example, taken forom BBC a minute ago - "Russian forces battle Georgians"... No comments!! It's just a direct perversion of the truth.

Damn it! I am just thinking about the fact of information sources... The English language is common, so people all over the world can watch and read western news and compare it with their national news. And western people don't have such a possibility to compare because they do not know, for example, Russian... so they DO lack information and have to be happy with what BBC, CNN, SkyNews give them as true facts. That's soooo creepy! Information war, this is how it's called.
  
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Dew 2007  #557438  Fri, 22 Aug 08 05:41 AM
It may look the same as Tibet and China. But everyone in the world wants to free Tibet and nobody wants to free the Ossetinians from Georgia.

But when it comes to the defending of the people from agression, then Russia is wrong...

Double standards go on. If Tibet wants to be free, it's Ok. If Ossetia and Abkhazia want to be free from the agressor that showed its real face - it's all wrong...
Why?
It's Russia that is to blame... So convenient!
  
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Osee  #557448  Fri, 22 Aug 08 06:49 AM

1. You have already accepted the concept that Tibet should be free and you are surrounded with the news distorted by western medias which is accumulated for many years, so you think everyone in the world (except for the Chinese) wants to free Tibet. But this is not true (of course, this is by my point of view). You might have seen the video by an American history professor which tells the truth of Tibet and China, which shows not everyone thinks Tibet should be free. Further, I have already said Georgia and Russia issue is different with Tibet and China issue, but what makes people jump a gun to think Russia is wrong (by saying so, I am not implying either side is right or wrong) is just like what makes people think Tibet should be free.

2. Is that the rule if people in a region want to be free then they should be free?

3. I believe many countries in this world have a similar issue as China, especially those big ones like US, Russia, etc. Because big countries usually have complicated historical pasts. But these countries have also been playing important rolls in this world. For one example, about one year agao, China waived debts of 31 countries of Africa with the total amount over 10 Billion US dollars. So I really do not understand how someone in these forums fixate on Tibet issue and blames China so sharply like China is an evil.

Dew 2007
It may look the same as Tibet and China. But everyone in the world wants to free Tibet and nobody wants to free the Ossetinians from Georgia.

But when it comes to the defending of the people from agression, then Russia is wrong...

Double standards go on. If Tibet wants to be free, it's Ok. If Ossetia and Abkhazia want to be free from the agressor that showed its real face - it's all wrong...
Why?
It's Russia that is to blame... So convenient!
  
Dew 2007  #557464  Fri, 22 Aug 08 07:34 AM
Yes, the matters of national soverenty are always complicated, and shouldn't be judged the same everywhere.The very thing I am against of is a one-seded approach to many of these conflicts.

In case of Kosovo most of the Western media would never listen to one of the sides.
The same with Ossetia. but here they support another point of view... when it comes to Tibet there is no unity yet. (but I am sure if Russia takes one side, they would certainly join the other)

When Russia supported  Serbian unity (according to the International law) it was wrong, but as for Georgia - it's another case. Are there different internaional laws in the world? No, these laws work only when they are suitable to some forces. Unfortunately these forces are not at all peaceful.
  
Osee  #557511  Fri, 22 Aug 08 08:56 AM

What did you mean by unity? Anyhow, I am gonna stop and will not join these debate forums any more. Just like God and science thing, some believe there is a god who creats this world, some believe in science and think there is no god and this world was created by a big bang or whatever. Either side can not convince the other; really it is totally a matter of belief, a matter of what kind of info people recieved in the first place or the intense of those info.

Dew 2007
Yes, the matters of national soverenty are always complicated, and shouldn't be judged the same everywhere.The very thing I am against of is a one-seded approach to many of these conflicts.

In case of Kosovo most of the Western media would never listen to one of the sides.
The same with Ossetia. but here they support another point of view... when it comes to Tibet there is no unity yet. (but I am sure if Russia takes one side, they would certainly join the other)

When Russia supported  Serbian unity (according to the International law) it was wrong, but as for Georgia - it's another case. Are there different internaional laws in the world? No, these laws work only when they are suitable to some forces. Unfortunately these forces are not at all peaceful.
  
ISU_152  #557585  Fri, 22 Aug 08 01:55 PM
Western goverments always do something for his private profits and use honorable words like "Freedom" , "Demokraty" , "Soverinity" and other as smoke curtain for his real reason .

If he want make some problem for China - OK , all mass media crying about " free Tibet " and nobody bored about, what really happen there and what butchery  may happend if  Chinese leave this region .

If he whant make military base on balcanian peninsula and destroy the Yougoslavia federation- OK , all western mass media crying about "free Kosovo" , and nobody bored about burned christian church and serbians , carnaged bu terrorist .

If he want save his satellit Saakoshvily from trial - OK , all mass media issued post like " RED ARMY advansed" ( RED ARMY dismissed half century ago but nobody bored about such things)

Good lack to us all - we all need it . This men can began WW3 for his private profit  and burn all our world

  
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Ruslana  #557599  Fri, 22 Aug 08 02:17 PM
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If he whant make military base on balcanian peninsula and destroy the Yougoslavia federation- OK , all western mass media crying about "free Kosovo" , and nobody bored about burned christian church and serbians , carnaged bu terrorist .


And after some years, very shocking and outrageous details start coming to light, about the UN line as well.

  
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Ruslana  #557906  Sat, 23 Aug 08 08:28 PM
Fun...



  
Lawyee  #557915  Sat, 23 Aug 08 10:08 PM
Great choice, Lana. I absolutely agree: Georgia will never be alone on its way to NATO. Russia is right there, isn't it! Travelling with them - pushing them off the path. Waiting on the path for Georgia to return to the path, so that they could once again push them off the path. It's a great fun!Stick out tongue
  
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