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Anonymous  +  538371 Tue, 08 Jul 08 04:09 PM

(1) Prior to 1964 when Clay converted to the Muslim religion and changed his name to Muhammad Ali, he seemed to fit comfortably enough within the context of establishment white values.

 

Is the phrase “of establishment white values.” ok? Please advise.

 

(2) The most famous and celebrated American athlete in the 1990s was Michael Jordan. Jordan would epitomize of the successful black athlete; his acceptance the culmination of the long struggle for racial equality by African Americans in the sports arena.

 

Is the phrase “Jordan would epitomize of the” ok? Please check.

 

(3) This mind-set has predictable consequences. A boxer doesn’t avoid injuries so much as endure them.

 

Is preposition missing in “so much as endure them.”? Please clarify.

 

(4) Oriard notes that each year almost a quarter of the NFL veterans fail to make the team.

 

Is preposition missing in “to make the team.” Please clarify.

 

(5) One gets the impression that a veritable cottage industry of self-proclaimed training experts has arisen to offer their services to athletes.

 

Should it be “have arisen”? Please advise.

 

(6) Salvino trained religiously for two hours a day over the course of some 40 years, and has the calluses to show for it.

 

Should it be religiously or rigorously? Please check.

 

(7) One of the more notorious incidents occurred in 1951 when the young Mickey Mantle’s spikes caught on a rubber cover over a sprinkler fixture in Yankee Stadium’s outfield, causing him to trip and tear ligaments in his knee.

 

Should it be “most notorious incidents”? Please clarify.

 

(8) The current uses of technology to shape, protect, and repair the athlete’s body stands in stark contrast to the days of Red Pollard and Ty Cobb.

 

Should it be “stand”? Please check.

 

(9) During a visit with my children’s maternal great grandfather, he reminisced from his Indiana nursing home bed how he had played football with the Olympic champion back in 1915 on Pine Village’s semipro team.

 

Should it be “During a visit to my”? Please check.

 

(10) I had to decide on which sports to include to represent the broad athletic experience.

 

Can “to represent” be changed to “in order to represent”? Please advise.

 

(11) The reader will learn more about father-son relationships through Earl Woods’ dreams for his son and the regimen he created to develop his young prodigy than from a description of Tiger sinking a 30-foot putt

 

Should it be “30-feet putt”? Please check.

 

(12) Moreover, athletes tend to block awareness of the pattern assumed by most all careers that depend on skilled performance: that there is an ascent, plateau, and descent.

 

Is the phrase “by most all careers” ok? Please check.

 

(13) Success leads to prestige on the local, state, and regional levels: name and picture on the sports page and on the local television channel, maybe even mention in national publications like Sports Illustrated.

 

Should it be “may be even mentioned”? Please clarify.

 

(14) They may unaware of the coach’s plan to cut them from the team.

 

Should it be “They may be unaware”? Please check.

 

(15) He batted .237 with 18 home runs in 1968. He was used as a sometimes first baseman to spare his beat-up legs while the fans continued to pay their tribute, but it made him uneasy.

 

Should it be “He was sometimes used as a first baseman”? Please clarify.

 

(16) At age 60, he could be found most every day on the Southern California courts teaching and getting ready for the next tournament.

 

Is the phrase “he could be found most every day” ok? Please check.

 

(17) Jackie Robinson retired at age 37 while he still was able to play competitively.

 

Should it be “while he was still able to play”? Please check.

RayH  +  538384 Tue, 08 Jul 08 04:28 PM
I've answered pretty much all I have the patience for. You will probably get a better and more thorough discussion of your questions if you post one or two at a time and offer some reasons why you think some are in error or should use alternate phrasing.


(2) The most famous and celebrated American athlete in the 1990s was Michael Jordan. Jordan would epitomize of the successful black athlete; his acceptance the culmination of the long struggle for racial equality by African Americans in the sports arena.

 Is the phrase “Jordan would epitomize of the” ok? As corrected.

(3) This mind-set has predictable consequences. A boxer doesn’t avoid injuries so much as endure them.

 Is preposition missing in “so much as endure them.”? Correct as written.

(5) One gets the impression that a veritable cottage industry of self-proclaimed training experts has arisen to offer their services to athletes.

 Should it be “have arisen”? Correct as written.

(6) Salvino trained religiously for two hours a day over the course of some 40 years, and has the calluses to show for it.

 Should it be religiously or rigorously? Correct as written but you could use "rigorously."


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Avangi  +  538466 Tue, 08 Jul 08 06:26 PM

Anonymous

(1) Prior to 1964 when Clay converted to the Muslim religion and changed his name to Muhammad Ali, he seemed to fit comfortably enough within the context of establishment white values.

Is the phrase "of establishment white values." ok? Please advise.

It all depends what you mean. Which extablishment are you talking about? The boxing establishment, or the white establishment? The boxing extablishment's white values? The white values within the boxing establishment? Of white establishment values? These all have different meanings.

I'm not sure that "context" is the right word here. " He seemed comfortable with the values of the white establishment." "He seemed comfortable with the values of the boxing establishment." "He seemed comfortable with the values of the boxing world, which was controlled by the white establishment.

(2) The most famous and celebrated American athlete in the 1990s was Michael Jordan. Jordan would epitomize of the successful black athlete; his acceptance was the culmination of the long struggle for racial equality by African Americans in the sports arena.

Is the phrase "Jordan would epitomize of the" ok? Please check.

"athlete" is the direct object of "to epitomize." "Of" is not used.

(3) This mind-set has predictable consequences. A boxer doesn’t avoid injuries so much as endure them.

Is preposition missing in "so much as endure them."? Please clarify.

The usage is perfectly correct and natural as is.

4) Oriard notes that each year almost a quarter of the NFL veterans fail to make the team.

Is preposition missing in "to make the team." Please clarify.

"To make the team" is a very common sports idiom, similar to "to make the grade."

(5) One gets the impression that a veritable cottage industry of self-proclaimed training experts has arisen to offer their services to athletes.

Should it be "have arisen"? Please advise.

"Industry has arisen." Industry is the subject of the clause - singular.

(6) Salvino trained religiously for two hours a day over the course of some 40 years, and has the calluses to show for it.

Should it be religiously or rigorously? Please check.

"Religiously" is fine. (with religious fervor and dedication)

(7) One of the more notorious incidents occurred in 1951 when the young Mickey Mantle’s spikes caught on a rubber cover over a sprinkler fixture in Yankee Stadium’s outfield, causing him to trip and tear ligaments in his knee.

Should it be "most notorious incidents"? Please clarify.

We divide all the incidents into two groups: (1) the more notorious ones (2) the less notorious ones. Mickey's incident belonged to the first group. It was one of them.

(8) The current uses of technology to shape, protect, and repair the athlete’s body stands in stark contrast to the treatments used in the days of Red Pollard and Ty Cobb.

Should it be "stand"? Please check. You're absolutely right. "Uses stand." - plural.

(9) During a visit with my children’s maternal great grandfather, he reminisced from his Indiana nursing home bed how he had played football with the Olympic champion back in 1915 on Pine Village’s semipro team.

Should it be "During a visit to my"? Please check.

This is okay. "Visit to" means I go there. "Visit with" means we have a pleasant visit (talking and laughing with each other).

(10) I had to decide on which sports to include to represent the broad athletic experience.

Can "to represent" be changed to "in order to represent"? Please advise.

Yes, it can. "To represent" means the sports represent the experience. "In order to represent" means YOU represent the experience.

(11) The reader will learn more about father-son relationships through Earl Woods’ dreams for his son and the regimen he created to develop his young prodigy than from a description of Tiger sinking a 30-foot putt

Should it be "30-feet putt"? Please check.

No. I'm too weary to explain right now. You could say, "a putt of 30 feet," but we say "a five-mile hike."

(12) Moreover, athletes tend to block awareness of the pattern assumed by most all careers that depend on skilled performance: that there is an ascent, plateau, and descent.

It's okay. "Assumed" is not used in the sense of "to make an assumption." It's more like "The man suddenly assumed the shape of a vicious wolf."

Is the phrase "by most all careers" ok? Please check.

"By most all careers" = "by nearly all careers." OK


 

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Avangi  +  538468 Tue, 08 Jul 08 06:31 PM

Anonymous

(13) Success leads to prestige on the local, state, and regional levels: name and picture on the sports page and on the local television channel, maybe even mention in national publications like Sports Illustrated.

Should it be "may be even mentioned"? Please clarify.

No, it's correct. See the colon after "levels." A list of two things follows, both based on nouns: "name & picture"; and "mention." (mention = having someone mention you)

(14) They may unaware of the coach’s plan to cut them from the team.

Should it be "They may be unaware"? Please check. Yes. Just a typo.

(15) He batted .237 with 18 home runs in 1968. He was used as a sometimes first baseman to spare his beat-up legs while the fans continued to pay their tribute, but it made him uneasy.

Should it be "He was sometimes used as a first baseman"? Please clarify.

It's okay as it is. It's an idiom. Occasionally it's used in the singular: "She's a sometime girlfriend of mine."

(16) At age 60, he could be found most every day on the Southern California courts teaching and getting ready for the next tournament.

Is the phrase "he could be found most every day" ok? Please check. Yes.

(17) Jackie Robinson retired at age 37 while he still was able to play competitively.

Should it be "while he was still able to play"? Please check.

Your version may be preferred, but both are common and (I believe) correct.

CalifJim  +  538469 Tue, 08 Jul 08 06:31 PM
 You have way too many questions!!!  Sad

Please ask only one or two questions in each post, and you will greatly increase your chances that someone will have the patience to answer.

CJ 

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Avangi  +  538476 Tue, 08 Jul 08 06:42 PM
Not to mention that the editor goes absolutely whacko!

P.S.  I said not to mention that!

 - A.
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