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Latest post Thu, Nov 24 2005 5:17 AM by Sextus. 3 replies.
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jack112  +  161972 Thu, 24 Nov 05 01:45 AM

1. The girl that I'm meeting tonight had two boyfriends.

A week later, I tell my friend:

2. The girl that I met last week had two boyfriends.

3. The girl that I met last week had had two boyfriends. (Do I need to use 'had had' to refer back to the time I said it? Do I need to use reported speech here?)

Thanks.

 

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Sextus, 4 yr ago

As far as I can see, it's better if you don't use the past perfect.

Sextus

Clive  +  162007 Thu, 24 Nov 05 04:36 AM

Hi,

1. The girl that I'm meeting tonight had two boyfriends. This means that she doesn't have them at the time you are saying this. She had them at a previous time.

A week later, I tell my friend:

2. The girl that I met last week had two boyfriends. This sounds like she had them at the time I met her last week.

3. The girl that I met last week had had two boyfriends. This makes clear the situation as outlined in No. 1 above. Therefore, to be accurate, this is what you should say. It's quite a normal, everyday kind of thing to say. Of course, you may not care about such accuracy, that's up to you.

Do I need to use reported speech here? It's not speech that is being reported, it's just describing a situation in the past.

Best wishes, Clive

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Sextus  +  162018 Thu, 24 Nov 05 05:17 AM

Well, it seems that I've made a mistake. The reason is that in Spanish the simple past may be translated by two different tenses. In the case of the example given, if one uses one of these tenses, it means that she was still with the guys last week, but if one employs the other tense, it is clear that she was not. In Spanish we could also use the past perfect, but in this case it would sound strange.

Cheers,

Sextus

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