Radnus  +  149931 Thu, 20 Oct 05 08:04 PM Hi, What is the difference between "I have been to Bangalore" and "I had been to Bangalore". Little confused over there. Would be great if some could help. Thanks Sundar Radnus Joined on Thu, Oct 20 2005 New Member 01 Difference Between

	Wwwdotcom  +  149976 Thu, 20 Oct 05 11:07 PM Had before a 2nd completed action - I had been to Bangalore before I decided to move there. (decided) Have been and may go again - I have been to Bangalore before, and perhaps someday I'll move there. (not yet decided) Wwwdotcom Joined on Fri, Sep 30 2005 Kyoto, but originally from Detroit Full Member 336

	Savvysavz  +  149979 Thu, 20 Oct 05 11:16 PM Hi Radnus, I have been to Bangalore several times. ( This sentence explains your routine frequency) I had been to Bangalore eight years ago.(This sentence goes back to the past,very long time ago).You can't say I had been to Bangalore two days back. Then it would be, I was in Bangalore two days back. Savvy Savvysavz Joined on Tue, Aug 23 2005 French in no man's land Regular Member 549 Hell! There are no rules here! We're trying to accomplish something! (Thomas Edison)

	paco2004  +  150029 Fri, 21 Oct 05 12:45 AM Hello Sundar As W3.com has already said, you need any reference past time to use the version of "I had been". "Last Sunday I went to Bangalore. I had been to Bangalore twice before then."  Here the reference past time is "last Sunday" and "had been" implies your experience of 'going to/staying in Bangalore twice' took place before "last Sunday". On the other hand, "I have been to Bangalore twice" states that your experience of 'going to/staying in Bangalore twice' took place before now (= the time you are talking). paco paco2004 Joined on Wed, Nov 17 2004 Senior Member 4,095 In Japan today even dogs are learning how to bow-wow in English.

	CalifJim  +  150065 Fri, 21 Oct 05 03:26 AM You can't say I had been to Bangalore two days back. The amount of time has nothing to do with it. It doesn't have to be eight years ago, or any number of years.  You can say, "I had been to Bangalore two days before (that)" without any problem if the context is right, regardless of how long ago you made the trip.  Borrowing from Paco's post, I must emphasize that the important thing is that a past point of view must be established before a past perfect will make sense.  It is this past point of view that establishes the correct context. "Just yesterday a friend of mine asked me if I had ever been to Bangalore.  I had been to Bangalore just two days before, so naturally I answered that I had been to Bangalore quite recently." CJ CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,463 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche Past Perfect