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Anonymous  #355921  Thu, 26 Apr 07 07:54 AM
is there any difference between these two forms of posession? eg. "I have got my own car" vs "I have my own car"
  
Conchita57  #356321  Thu, 26 Apr 07 10:52 PM
No, there isn't any difference in meaning between 'I have' and 'I have got' (or: 'I've got'). 

  
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nona the brit  #356519  Fri, 27 Apr 07 10:30 AM
'I have got' is only used in British English.
  
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Anonymous  #386899  Mon, 02 Jul 07 08:54 AM
You gotta be kidding!
  
New2grammar  #386980  Mon, 02 Jul 07 12:48 PM

So in the States, people say 'I got a fever' instead of 'I've got a fever', is that right?

  
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Intelligent Freak  #387028  Mon, 02 Jul 07 02:41 PM

And why is it not "have gotten" instead of "have got" ?

Isn't it that the correct construction is:          have +  past participle(verb) ?

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Kooyeen  #387044  Mon, 02 Jul 07 02:58 PM
Hi everyone,
nope, this is what I know:

Possession
I have a car. - Yes
I have got a car. - Yes, not common in the US though
I've got a car. - Yes
I got a car. - Yes, sometimes used in speech but not technically correct, so don't use this on English tests.
She has a car. - Yes
She has got a car. - Yes, not common in the US though
She's got a car. - Yes
She got a car. - No. You might sometimes leave out 've (as in "I got a car) but not the 's, so it should be "she's got a car"...

Verb "get"
present: get - I always get some money from her.
past: got - I got some money from her.
past participle: gotten (AmE), got (BrE)

Idiomatic "must" (same comments as for "possession")
I have to go to school. - Yep
I have got to go to school. - Yep, not common in the US though
I've got to go to school. - Yep
I got to go to school. - Yep, used in speech, but not technically correct...
etc...

PS: other forms are sometimes found, but they are not as common as these, and I suspect they are kind of dialectal. For example, I recently found "Hurry up, I don't got much time, so make up your mind!"

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New2grammar  #387073  Mon, 02 Jul 07 03:33 PM

Kooyeen, it seems like you don't think there's any difference between 'have and 've got', at least in your examples.

Do you think they are any differences in the following:

'I've got a fever' vs 'I have a fever'

'I've got the flu' vs 'I have the flu'

'I've got a sore throat' vs 'I have a sore throat'

I think the 've got' versions have recency meaning (have just contracted the disease) while 'have' versions simply state the current condition/state of the patient.

  
Intelligent Freak  #387078  Mon, 02 Jul 07 03:45 PM

 Kooyeen wrote:
Hi everyone,
nope, this is what I know:

Possession
I have a car. - Yes
I have got a car. - Yes, not common in the US though
I've got a car. - Yes
I got a car. - Yes, sometimes used in speech but not technically correct, so don't use this on English tests.
She has a car. - Yes
She has got a car. - Yes, not common in the US though
She's got a car. - Yes
She got a car. - No. You might sometimes leave out 've (as in "I got a car) but not the 's, so it should be "she's got a car"...

Verb "get"
present: get - I always get some money from her.
past: got - I got some money from her.
past participle: gotten (AmE), got (BrE)

Idiomatic "must" (same comments as for "possession")
I have to go to school. - Yep
I have got to go to school. - Yep, not common in the US though
I've got to go to school. - Yep
I got to go to school. - Yep, used in speech, but not technically correct...
etc...

PS: other forms are sometimes found, but they are not as common as these, and I suspect they are kind of dialectal. For example, I recently found "Hurry up, I don't got much time, so make up your mind!"

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Hi to you kooyeen...

Ok, let's set aside the have as for  "possession".  It's a different topic.

I actually was questioning the sentence pattern for present perfect tense.

   He has given up. (used the past participle)

   I have seen you.  (used the past participle)

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