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Latest post Mon, Oct 2 2006 8:08 AM by CalifJim. 2 replies.
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Anonymous  +  274717 Sun, 01 Oct 06 12:44 AM

Hi guys,

Which one is correct?

1) I have known her for some time

2) I had known her some time

And,

When someone asks me "Has she done it?",  do I say "she hasn't" or "she hadn't"?

Please give me some examples of had/have sentences so I can learn to improve my English.

Thank you all.

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Grammar Geek  +  274746 Sun, 01 Oct 06 03:15 AM

Say right now, your friend is asking if you know Mary. "Oh yes," you say. "I have known her for some time." You are talking about something that started in the past and continues now.

Now, let's say your friend asking about the fact that you are just back from a visit to someone that you met online. "We had talked every night for a month before I went there. By then, I felt like I had known her for a long time." You are talking about the situation that existed at that past point in time when you went to visit her. You may know her still (the visit was a good one!) but you are referring to something from the point of view of the past about something even further in the past.

If the person uses present perfect (has she done it?), then you answer the same way if your time of referene doesn't change - she hasn't done it.

If you want to refer to a past event - you asked if it was done yesterday and the answer was no - the "When I asked her yesterday [in the past], she still had not done it."

I hope these examples help.

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CalifJim  +  275204 Mon, 02 Oct 06 08:08 AM
I have known and I had known are both correct if they are used in the right context.
When you use has or have you are talking about things "at this time", "now", "up to this time", "up to now".
When you use had you are talking about things "at that time (in the past)", "then", "up to that time (in the past)", "up to then".

-- Do you know Isabel?  (present)
-- Yes.  In fact, I have known her for some time.

-- I noticed that Isabel was at your wedding.  I didn't realize you two were friends. 
(past)
-- Oh, yes.  I met her many years ago.  At the time of the wedding I had (already) known her for some time.

-- Do you like Fellini films? 
(present)
-- Yes, very much!  I have seen all of them!

-- Why didn't you go to the Fellini film festival last month?  They screened many of his best films. 
(past)
-- I was too busy.  And besides, I had (already) seen all of them.


-- Where are you going?  (present)
-- I'm going to the post office.  I have written some letters.  I want to mail them.

-- Where were you driving in such a hurry last weekend? 
(past)
-- I was going to the post office to mail some letters that I had written.


CJ



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