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Inchoateknowledge  #272035  Mon, 25 Sep 06 03:45 PM

I have book to read

what is the function of  "have" in the sentence, do you think?

"Have" means what?

  
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Anonymous  #272048  Mon, 25 Sep 06 04:42 PM

'I have a book' - what does 'have' mean in this sentence?

'a book to read' - 'to read' modifies 'a book'. ( for reading).

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Slava

  
Schetin  #272049  Mon, 25 Sep 06 04:44 PM

'I have a book' - what does 'have' mean in this sentence?

'a book to read' - 'to read' modifies 'a book'( for reading).

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Slava

  
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Anonymous  #272050  Mon, 25 Sep 06 04:48 PM

and 'have' means what?

  
milky  #272053  Mon, 25 Sep 06 04:52 PM
Haven't you read any of the recent and current threads here? It's being discussed right now. Pop over to The Linguistics Discussion Forum and check out the long debate on "have" in such utterances.
  
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Hume said that if we had perfect or complete descriptive knowledge of reality, we could not, by reasoning, derive a single valid "ought".
milky  #272058  Mon, 25 Sep 06 05:08 PM

I have a book to read.

Could be "I possess a book, and  therefore I will not be bored". (Pure possession)

Or "I'm obliged to read a book, which is not necessarily mine, by Monday's class", for example. (Obligation)

Or "I possess a book and am obliged to read it." (Possession and obligation)

Or "I possess a book and want to read it. (Possession and desire).

  
milky  #272075  Mon, 25 Sep 06 05:56 PM

Does anyone detect a difference in meaning, no matter how slight, between these two?

I have a (my) baby to look after now.

I have to look after a (my) baby now.

  
Schetin  #272084  Mon, 25 Sep 06 06:08 PM
  • I won't be bored (agreed, possession)
  • Don't bother me. I'm reading. (possible obligation)
  • I'm busy. There's a whole book and I've just started reading it. (possible obligation)
  • You can't suggest a better alternative. (no obligation)

Although obligation is possible, I don't think it is explicitly rendered by 'have'.

  
Schetin  #272085  Mon, 25 Sep 06 06:12 PM

Yes, there is a difference. And I don't think it is slight.

The first hinders, the second obliges.

  
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