Anonymous  +  588436 Mon, 17 Nov 08 11:57 AM Do you agree that, in their obligative readings, "must" is generally subjective while "have to" is always subjective? Anonymous

	Clive  +  588463 Mon, 17 Nov 08 01:13 PM Hi, If you read a sign that says 'Passengers must remain seated until the bus has stopped', in what sense would you consider that generally subjective? Best wishes, Clive Clive Joined on Thu, Oct 28 2004 Canada Veteran Member 29,575 El tango argentino es un pensamiento triste que se puede bailar (The tango argentino is a sad thought which can be danced) Enrique Santos Discépolo

	Clive  +  588584 Mon, 17 Nov 08 07:08 PM Hi, Do you agree that, in their obligative readings, "must" is generally subjective while "have to" is always subjective? If you read a sign that says 'Passengers must remain seated until the bus has stopped', in what sense would you consider that generally subjective? Because it expresses the speaker's authority. The deontic source is the speaker. But if  'subjective' is defined as 'expressing the speaker's authority', would you say that 'I have to do my homework tonight' is subjective? Clive  Clive

	Clive  +  588651 Mon, 17 Nov 08 10:54 PM Hi, Yes. So that would mean the answer to the original question is 'No', wouldn't it? Clive Clive Dates

	Clive  +  588658 Mon, 17 Nov 08 11:09 PM Hi, Oh, I see.   In that case I'd agree, very generally speaking. Clive Clive