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Having done sth - only valid with Present Perfect?

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paul_h  #541068  Mon, 14 Jul 08 05:59 AM
Hi,

Consider the sentence "Having lived in the USA for x years, I can say that .."

That's present perfect "I have lived in the USA for x years" so this kind of implies I'm still living here.

What if I lived there for x years and came to where I now live 5 years ago: "I lived in the USA for x years". simple past.

Is it valid to use "Having lived in the USA for x years" even though you don't live there anymore? "Having lived" is present perfect, but what would be the simple past form of that? Also, would you use that?

Paul
  
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Anonymous  #541077  Mon, 14 Jul 08 06:36 AM
Hi,
I think I have asked a similar question before  and I think a person believed to be a  teacher/expert here answered that there is not need to say "having had lived" and the phrase "having lived" can be used in a past sentential context as well as in present sentential context.

Having lived (no need to use "having had lived") in *** for three years, he knows how to speak English.
Having lived (no need to use "having had lived")  in *** for three years, he moved to another place.

I want to be confirmed of this though.
  
CalifJim  #541088  Mon, 14 Jul 08 07:22 AM
paul_h
Is it valid to use "Having lived in the USA for x years" even though you don't live there anymore?
Yes.  That's fine.

paul_h
"Having lived" is present perfect, but what would be the simple past form of that? Also, would you use that?
There's no corresponding form.

having lived is a participial expression, a non-finite form, so it can't express the full range of tenses that a finite verb form can.

(The same problem occurs with infinitives.  The infinitives do not cover the full range of tenses.)

CJ 

  
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