Having trouble grasping the proper use of tenses

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Anonymous  #364031  Sat, 12 May 07 11:53 PM
Hello. I apologize in advance if this question feels like a waste of time to those more knowledgeable than myself. I have spent most of the last two days trying to find an answer and haven't been able to so far. I am trying to write a fictional story. My understanding fails here:

"This time it was Brenda's turn to laugh." vs "That time it was Brenda's turn to laugh."

I am trying to write in the past tense but feel I am lacking some basic understanding of how to go about this.

"This time it was..." sounds better to my ear, but am I mixing tenses if I write like this? Is there a rule of grammar that dictates which pronoun is proper to use? Perhaps I'm missing some subtlety regarding using this/that...

This example isn't my only problem with English grammar. I have spent plenty of time reading about proper grammar, yet the whole concept of proper tense use seems to be evading me.

If anyone could offer some help, or even some resource(s) to further my knowledge, I would be much appreciative. Thank you very much for your time.
  
Clive  #364050  Sun, 13 May 07 01:34 AM

Hi,

 I am trying to write a fictional story. My understanding fails here:

"This time it was Brenda's turn to laugh." vs "That time it was Brenda's turn to laugh."

I am trying to write in the past tense but feel I am lacking some basic understanding of how to go about this.

"This time it was..." sounds better to my ear, but am I mixing tenses if I write like this? Is there a rule of grammar that dictates which pronoun is proper to use? Perhaps I'm missing some subtlety regarding using this/that...

Interesting question. I'm not a writer, but let me try to offer a few comments.

'This' and 'that' don't relate to tenses but to proximity. If I say 'Look at this', it's closer to me in some way than if I say 'Look at that'. It seems to me that the effect of saying 'This turn it was Brenda's turn to laugh' is to put the reader close to the action, as if he/she were there with Brenda at that point and place in time. Generally speaking, that seems to me like a desirable way to tell a story.

This example isn't my only problem with English grammar. I have spent plenty of time reading about proper grammar, yet the whole concept of proper tense use seems to be evading me. If you have other examples or questions you'd like to pose for comments, please feel free.

Best wishes, Clive

  
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DiG  #364219  Sun, 13 May 07 01:12 PM
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Ah, thank you very much Clive. Your answer does clear things up somewhat. With that new light shed on the subject, I think the other problems I was having are less grammatical errors, and more just an issue with my naive logic attacking my... questionable skill with English grammar. Hehe.

In case you are interested, one of the other problems I was having: Lets say I substituted "Now" for "This" or "Then" for "That" in the original sample; thus, "Now it was Brenda's turn to laugh," and "Then it was Brenda's turn to laugh." Using "Now" with "was" throws up red flags for me, but I think I understand now that its not necessarily a grammatical error, just my misunderstanding.

I really appreciate your help on this matter and everyone's help in general. I have spent a few hours now just browsing through others' questions and answers. This really is an amazing resource. I have learned so much already. Hopefully at some point I can contribute something too. Thanks again.

P.S. Do you happen to know, when writing in English (fiction), is it acceptable to bounce between tenses for different sentences? paragraphs? chapters?
  
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Marius Hancu  #364222  Sun, 13 May 07 01:32 PM
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milky  #364229  Sun, 13 May 07 01:47 PM

 Marius Hancu wrote:
Read these:

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How will reading those help, Marius?

Do they show that the use of "now" and "this time" are fine in past tense narratives?

  
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Clive  #364263  Sun, 13 May 07 03:00 PM

Hi again,

P.S. Do you happen to know, when writing in English (fiction), is it acceptable to bounce between tenses for different sentences? paragraphs? chapters?

Can you perhaps post a little bit of writing to illustrate what kind of tense use you are thinking of?

Best wishes, Clive

  
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