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Tuongvan

#532949 Thu, 26 Jun 08 03:54 PM

Hi teachers,

What are the opposites of 'pride' in the sentence below:
He is the pride of the school .

Can I say like this to show the opposites of 'pride' in the above sentence?

He is the shame/the scorn /dishonour of the school

Thank you in advance

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Old Man Gordon

#532955 Thu, 26 Jun 08 04:00 PM

Those opposites are all acceptable.

I think the more commonly used opposite is "the disgrace of the..."

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Philip

#532970 Thu, 26 Jun 08 04:23 PM

Shame was to be my first choice until I saw OMG's suggestion of disgrace, with which I agree.

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Tuongvan

#532983 Thu, 26 Jun 08 04:56 PM

Thank you Philip and OMG.
Is there any difference between the following sentences?:

He is the shame of the school
He is the shame for the school
He is the disgrace of the school
He is the disgrace to the school
He is the scorn of the school .

Thank you in advance

Tuongvan

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Philip

#533030 Thu, 26 Jun 08 06:34 PM

Tuongvan
Thank you Philip and OMG.
Is there any difference between the following sentences?:

He is the shame of the school
He is the shame ~~for~~ the school of
~~He is the disgrace of the school~~
He is ~~the~~ disgrace to the school a
He is the scorn of the school . This doesn't sound common at all.

Thank you in advance

I hope this helps.

Philip

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Tuongvan

#533141 Fri, 27 Jun 08 01:15 AM

Thank you Philip very much,but I see this sentence in the Oxford dictionary:

He's the scorn of the village.
Is this sentence ok ? If it is , What does it mean?

And I also see on the Internet sometimes the say 'shame for " not' shame of :

" The apparent end of acquisition talks between Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT) and Yahoo (NSDQ:
YHOO) is “a shame” for the advertising industry, ..."

What does it mean if 'for' is used instyead of 'of' after 'shame ?

I would appreciate it very much if you would please help me me understand it .

Best wishes

Tuongvan

Philip

#533147 Fri, 27 Jun 08 01:37 AM

Tuongvan
Thank you Philip very much,but I see this sentence in the Oxford dictionary: As you know, there is a difference between BREng and AmEng.

He's the scorn of the village.
Is this sentence ok ? If it is , What does it mean? I think it means that he is scorned by the people of the village.

And I also see on the Internet sometimes the say 'shame for " not' shame of :

" The apparent end of acquisition talks between Microsoft (NSDQ: MSFT) and Yahoo (NSDQ:
YHOO) is “a shame” for the advertising industry, ..." Here, 'shame' means an unfortunate thing. ["It's a shame he died at such a young age."]

What does it mean if 'for' is used instyead of 'of' after 'shame ?

I would appreciate it very much if you would please help me me understand it .

Best wishes

I hope this helps.

Philip

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Avangi

#533161 Fri, 27 Jun 08 03:17 AM

Tuongvan
What does it mean if 'for' is used instyead of 'of' after 'shame ?

To elaborate on Philip's point that "shame" in the Microsoft/Yahoo example means "an unfortunate thing" rather than "a disgrace;" we like to know, "Whose misfortune is it?" That is, who exactly is going to suffer because of the situation described? That's where the "for" comes in, somewhat in the manner of an indirect object.

The baseball strike was a shame for the fans, who lost their favorite pastime for a season.

The collapse of the WXYZ Company was a shame for the thousands of hardworking people who had invested their life's savings in WXYZ stock.

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Direct objects, Indirect objects

Old Man Gordon

#533303 Fri, 27 Jun 08 01:04 PM

In "Wierd Al" Yankovic's song, "Like a Surgeon", he refers to himself as "The disgrace of the AMA". This shows him to be not only a failure, but one who causes embarrassment for the industry.

Old Man Gordon