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Liveinjapan  +  372497 Wed, 30 May 07 11:09 AM

Hi, everyone.

Business conversation on the phone:

Can I speak with Mr. Cruise?
I'm sorry. He's not in.

He's not in only means He's out of the office?

That doesn't mean He's not at his desk at the moment but he's in somewhere in the office, right?

Thanks.
LiJ

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Marius Hancu, 2 yr 181 days ago

He's not in only means He's out of the office?


Yes.

khoff  +  372627 Wed, 30 May 07 03:52 PM

That doesn't mean He's not at his desk at the moment but he's in somewhere in the office, right?

 The usual way to give this meaning would be "He's away from his desk right now."

(Be aware that in the real world, a secretary might be instructed to say "He's not in" if the person is right there but does not want to speak to the caller.)

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Clive  +  372686 Wed, 30 May 07 06:19 PM

Hi,

You could also, of course, say 'He's out (of the office)'.

Clive'.

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New2grammar  +  372842 Thu, 31 May 07 02:04 AM

This is interesting to me.

Let's say the callee says:

He is not here.  => means the callee looked around and he didn't see him there. He could still be in the office but not anywhere visible to the callee.

He just walked away => means he just walked away from his desk. He could be somewhere in the office or out of the office.

He just walked out/ He is not in / He is out => means he is out of the office but he is not on leave.

He has not come in => means he is late for work

He is on leave => means he won't come in at all Smile [:)]

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Clive  +  372860 Thu, 31 May 07 03:46 AM

Hi,

A couple of comments.

He has not come in => means he is late for work  No, this sounds like you don't thik he is gouing to come in today at all. He has not come in yet sounds like he will come in soon.

He is on leave => means he won't come in at all I've noticed on the Forum that people from some cultures often speak of someone being 'on leave'. This is not a common expression in N.American culture. I don't remember in my life ever saying that I was 'on leave'. You might say something like 'He's on vacation', if that's what you mean.

Best wishes, Clive

khoff  +  372864 Thu, 31 May 07 03:55 AM

Well, at one time I was "on maternity leave," but I guess you never were, Clive!  You might say someone is "on sick leave" if they are planning to be away for a lengthy illness, perhaps not even receiving any salary, but the company is holding their job available for their return.  Or someone who has been removed from their job pending investigation of possible wrongdoing might be on "administrative leave"  while the company decides if they should be fired or not. (I don't know why it's called that.) But if you just go away for your annual two weeks' vacation, you're on vacation, not on leave.

Clive  +  372869 Thu, 31 May 07 04:13 AM

Hi,

Point taken.  You can see I've never been pregnant.Smile [:)]

Howver, in the places I've worked, people have always been circumspect about giving out personal information about reasons for absence. eg We've never said He's in jail for six months or He's in rehab for his drinking problems. Even someone's recent giving birth was usually treated as her business rather than the caller's business.

Anyway, the expression 'he/she's on leave' still sounds unlikely to me.

Best wishes, Clive 

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