MrPedantic  +  324865 Tue, 06 Feb 07 12:48 AM  Anonymous wrote: Yes, it's true - in a way. Many died, as did others. The figures quoted (for Jews) of 4-6 million actually includes all Jews that relocated to other countries, or were otherwise unaccounted for. It also includes those who died due to allied bombings and food blockades, general disease, and other factors. So, it's very hard to put an authoritative figure on those deliberately killed by the N azis, but it is fair to say that it is nowhere near the 4-6 million which is repeated (parrot fashion) by 'respected' historians. This isn't entirely correct. The figure of "6 million" was first calculated shortly after the war, and was based among other things upon official records of liquidations kept by the Axis powers.  MrP MrPedantic Joined on Tue, Oct 12 2004 Veteran Member 12,592 ...opella forensis / adducit febris...

	Daedalus7  +  330301 Sat, 17 Feb 07 12:08 PM there's the president of Iran, the nutbar called ahmadinejad (spell?) who recently negated the holocaust, one must remember that he also said that Israel should be blotted out of the map. Daedalus7 Joined on Thu, Jun 29 2006 Barcelona Junior Member 82

	Daemon  +  342711 Sat, 24 Mar 07 05:05 AM Actually, daedalus, no he didn't. That was a rather bad mistranslation. Shortly after that particular line came out, the correct translation was announced, and many people connected to it were feeling sort of sheepish... but as the media didn't really make a big deal about how they screwed up on that one. It also didn't take into account the fact that rampant exageration is just the way people talk in that part of the world. Daemon Joined on Sat, Mar 24 2007 New Member 05 Translation

	nona the brit  +  344451 Wed, 28 Mar 07 08:46 AM I don't think that JJ was saying Hitler is/was his master. When someone is the master of something it means he/she is very good at it. Master of them all would mean the very best at it. He meant that Hitler was the best at killing people. Not a compliment! nona the brit Joined on Wed, Sep 22 2004 England Veteran Member 11,713 The name says it all.

	David  +  344498 Wed, 28 Mar 07 11:19 AM Not only Jews but two million Christians and handicapped persons suffered the same fate. To put one individual into a gas chamber is bad enough whatever the number it is repulsive cruelty which one hopes never happens again. David Joined on Sat, Mar 8 2003 Regular Member 664

	Fuwano Shouta  +  345617 Sat, 31 Mar 07 08:51 AM Thanks for clearing that up for me. As for the topic at hand... I've actually heard this said (by Arab muslims). Several have said to me that Hitler killed a few thousand Jews at most. I haven't said this to pick on them but I think it helps demonstrate that a person with limited (or extremely biased) information will of course make his decision based on what he knows. Which goes to show that projects to memorialize various genocides are needed to refresh everyone's memories. Just my 2 pence ^^ Fuwano Shouta