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Alexa For Australia
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Thu, 03 May 07 04:55 PM
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Alex, I really don't see anything insulting in his question. If he is from a place where, as Nona suggests, the Holocaust is denied, and now finds what he is hearing elsewhere to be in conflict with what he has always been taught, then good for him to trying to get more information.
He said he was confused, not that he didn't believe it.
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Sorry.
I know there are many places in the world where the Shoah is denied, and many Nazi propaganda still running in the net deny it too.
Let's put it this way: Jews can get a bit touchy when the Shoah is doubted.
And with reason.
Alexa
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Grammar Geek
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Thu, 03 May 07 05:09 PM
For what it's worth, my mother was born in a Jewish village in Poland near the Russian border in the early 30's, and although she and my grandmother came to the US just before the pogroms, it is assumed that my grandmother's entire family was lost. I'm not in an ivory tower when it comes to this topic myself. I have only contempt for a neo-Nazi skinhead teenager in the US denying it, but I have only encouragement for people asking questions if they are from a place where it is NOT taught.
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Alexa For Australia
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Thu, 03 May 07 05:41 PM
Also for what it's worth:
My mother lost her own father, her little brother, her uncles, her grandparents. She survived, and so did her two sisters.
My aunts' husbands: A.M.H. lost everyone but his grandmother. B.V.H. lost everyone.
No traces of my mother's father and family were ever found. They were last seen inside a cattle train, destination unknown.
The poster didn't say where he comes from. I don't know what he was taught, or where.
After all we've said, however, I think he will have an idea that the Shoah is not an invention.
Alexa
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nona the brit
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Thu, 03 May 07 06:12 PM
We can see where the posts originate from and he/she does indeed come from a country where the Holocaust is pretty much officially denied, without breaking his/her confidentiality on location. So that is why we've seen the question as really a very positive one questioning what he/she has been previously taught, and seeking the truth.
In any case, I still don't see anything offensive in the original question - did you look at the original post rather than just the thread title? Someone heard about something for the first time (for whatever reason) and wanted more information on it. There was no element of denial.
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Alexa For Australia
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Thu, 03 May 07 06:37 PM
But I can't see where he comes from, Nona.
And yes, I read the entire post and all the replies before I wrote mine.
All my life I've watched my mother and what's left of my family suffering for their loss.
We've prayed at the Wailing Wall, we've searched everywhere, and there's nothing, nothing left of them, as if they had never existed.
It wasn't that the post contained any element of denial. It was just that it contained an element of doubt.
Alexa
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nona the brit
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Thu, 03 May 07 07:19 PM
Doubt through lack of information is different to doubt from denial - he didn't deserve to be jumped on by you, frankly.
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Alexa For Australia
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Thu, 03 May 07 08:08 PM
| Nona The Brit wrote: | | Doubt through lack of information is different to doubt from denial - he didn't deserve to be jumped on by you, frankly. |
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As I've said before, I don't have, and can't have, any idea where he is from. He chose to hide it for his own reasons, which can be very valid.
But that can mislead the rest of us as to where his ideas come from.
If you think he doesn't deserve to be jumped on by me, then delete my posts.
Alexa
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MrPedantic
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Thu, 03 May 07 09:19 PM
Would all contributors please bear in mind that:
1. If a person chooses to post anonymously, it is not necessarily from a desire to "hide".
2. Not every poster has full access to all the historical materials.
3. Not every poster has full access to the Internet.
4. A question is a request for knowledge. If you choose to answer questions, your job is to provide knowledge, not to comment adversely on the lack of it.
Any further speculation about other posters's motivation will be deleted. Please stick to the facts.
Thank you.
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