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Avangi  #536016  Wed, 02 Jul 08 09:45 PM
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I remember hearing a girl say she liked her mother's cookies because they were so much better than the "boughten" ones.
Hi GG.  My mom told me that when bakery-made sliced bread first came on line everyone considered it a rare treat, but not long afterward the home-baked bread, hand-sliced, was the treat.
  
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New2grammar  #536018  Wed, 02 Jul 08 09:46 PM
Thank you, everyone. I see the difference now.

GG, I have two questions. Is frosting the same as icing? I believe they are uncountable.

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(Unless it was from the European bakery in Yarmouth, Maine, where they had seven-layer cake with raspberry filling and a mocha frosting. Now THAT was fine eats!)


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New2grammar  #536021  Wed, 02 Jul 08 09:56 PM
Off topic: Avangi, well, I guess anybody can asnwer this question, I always wonder why Americans say yankees. Sometimes, they find it amusing. Why so?

Here's some history I found
The origin of Yankee has been the subject of much debate, but the most likely source is the Dutch name Janke, meaning "little Jan" or "little John," a nickname that dates back to the 1680s. Perhaps because it was used as the name of pirates, the name Yankee came to be used as a term of contempt. It was used this way in the 1750s by General James Wolfe, the British general who secured British domination of North America by defeating the French at Quebec. The name may have been applied to New Englanders as an extension of an original use referring to Dutch settlers living along the Hudson River. Whatever the reason, Yankee is first recorded in 1765 as a name for an inhabitant of New England. The first recorded use of the term by the British to refer to Americans in general appears in the 1780s, in a letter by Lord Horatio Nelson, no less. Around the same time it began to be abbreviated to Yank. During the American Revolution, American soldiers adopted this term of derision as a term of national pride. The derisive use nonetheless remained alive and even intensified in the South during the Civil War, when it referred not to all Americans but to those loyal to the Union. Now the term carries less emotionexcept of course for baseball fans.
  
Avangi  #536045  Wed, 02 Jul 08 10:48 PM
Hi, New2,  re "Yankee"
I don't really know much about it.  As your reference suggests, it's meant different things at different times. Also from different perspectives.  I think if you're in Europe it applies to all Americans; if you're in the US it applies to New Englanders.  You also hear the expression "Connecticut Yankee," which perhaps Amy could explain. 

Of course some people still have a Civil War mentality ('War Between the States) in which southerners think of northerners as yankees and northerners think of southerners as rebels. 

Personally, I've never associated it with any emotion other than pride.

  - A.
  
New2grammar  #536049  Wed, 02 Jul 08 10:52 PM
Thanks, Avangi. I see no reason for it to be amusing. Have you ever heard or said it for amusement purposes?
  
Avangi  #536057  Wed, 02 Jul 08 11:01 PM
Never thought of it that way.  In my opinion, the yankee pride from world war II pretty much washed out the regional differences on this side of the pond.  I know I'm contradicting myself.  There were some pretty strong north-south feelings during the "civil rights movement."  I guess it depends on the nature of the conversation.
  
New2grammar  #536061  Wed, 02 Jul 08 11:12 PM
Avangi, Could you give me an example of a daily conversation in which yankee will be used ?
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Avangi  #536091  Thu, 03 Jul 08 01:30 AM
What's wrong with the one about my grandfather?  People often say that one of America's strengths lies in the ingenuity of ordinary people.  "Yankee ingenuity" is a common expression.
  
Grammar Geek  #536093  Thu, 03 Jul 08 01:34 AM

People from the Southern part of the US will refer to Yankees sometimes, usually in jest, over cultural differences or lack of knowledge of Southern ways. For example, New Orleans is really, really hot and humid. My cousin, a Southerner all his life, would laugh about how the Yankee tourists would come down and not understand how to move slowly and pace themselves and get exhausted in the heat.

Referring to New England, Yankes have a reputations for some things - being very frugal, both with money and words. They don't talk to strangers much, but will gladly offer help if needed. In true Yankee fashion, I never met my next door neighbor, despite living there for five years. (On the other hand, if you were to skid off the road on the ice, six people would appear with tow ropes in a matter of minutes.)

How did we get onto this conversation? Do we need to slip the thread into this new topic?

  
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