Homosexual marriages- against the natures law?

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abbie1948

#97981 Tue, 10 May 05 11:49 AM

Hi LL,

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and many people do feel that homosexuality is immoral and unnatural.

There seems to be a genetic factor which influences sexual preference, in which case it would be difficult to censure people for their feelings, because it is actually part of their physical make-up, a bit like having bark hair or blue eyes. Having said which, the counter argument would be, as you suggest, that as sentient beings people have the power to control their feelings and instincts, or at least not act upon them.

Interest subject for debate, though. Smile [:)]

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Hope that helps. Abbie

LanguageLover

#98054 Tue, 10 May 05 03:08 PM

I understand that Abbie, that's why I mentioned the imbalance of the hormones. Isn't there any treatment for that? Can't they change their own sex? I know that it is not possible to give the men, for example a cervix, but the other sexual organs can be changed, thanks to the plastic surgeons. And they can adopt children, like many other people who can't have a baby. I do not have any problems with this kind of guys who decide which sex they prefer to be, and then undergo the necessary operations to meet their desired physical changes, and then live like normal people. That's my point of view, and this is a very controversial subject! However, I respect the freedom of expression and ready to hear what other people, including homosexuals, have to say.
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abbie1948

#98093 Tue, 10 May 05 06:19 PM

Hi LL,I think you are talking about 2 different things here. Homsexuality is different from gender dysfuntion, which is when people feel as though they have been born into the wrong sex, and want sex-change operations.

Gender dysfunction also has a physical basis. Sometimes children were borne either without recognisable genitalia or with the rudeiments of both genders. Parents had to make a difficult choice as to which gender to choose for their child, and often got it wrong. Thankfully, this should happen less frequently, because of the ability to test DNA & genetic makeup.

I'm afraid that hormones etc., would not help with homosexuality, just as hormones won't change the colour of your eyes.

there used to be a treatment called "aversion therapy", which was aimed at getting homosexual men to develop a physical avrsion to other men, but it could not of course change their real preferences, nor make them attracted to women.

I think this is a very complex, but fascinating subject, and like you I respect people's opinions and appreciate the oppoprtunity to join in a reasoned discussion.

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LanguageLover

#98105 Tue, 10 May 05 07:01 PM

So, do you mean that only sufferer from gender desfunction can go under the sex-change operations? Isn't it possible for a homosexual who tends to have feminine feelings to go through that procedure?

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abbie1948

#98263 Wed, 11 May 05 10:56 AM

Homosexuals are quite content with their gender. They are happy to be men or women, just as they were born and they have no desire to change to a member of the opposite sex. They do however prefer relationships with members of the same sex.

Complicated, isn't it? Smile [:)]

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Orcun

#98780 Fri, 13 May 05 01:14 AM

In my aspect,there is no point in marrying to some one in the same sex with you.But If any one wants to,it shouldn't be prevented i believe.

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abbie1948

#98782 Fri, 13 May 05 01:26 AM

Welcome, Orcun, and thank you for your contribution to this debate. Hope to see many more! Smile [:)]

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#100280 Tue, 17 May 05 01:19 AM

hey everyone...I just felt the need to share what I think...please bear with me

First, I am a fundamental christian and I believe that homosexuality is wrong

Second, I know that I live a free country, and based on this, I have no right to impose my religious beliefs on anyone. Does this mean I can say what I think...yes! Does it mean I can make laws to agree with what I think...NO! Some laws, like the ones against rape and murder have to be made in order for society to function. If there was no law against murder, than anyone could murder anyone else without fear of retribution (except by the people who loved the victim)...do you see why society can't function that way? However, this means that our laws are not based on what is right and wrong, but rather on what gives individuals the most freedom. Laws that restrict our freedoms to rape and murder increase the freedom to the people who would otherwise be victims. However, other laws, like aobut homosexuality do nothing but restrict freedom. If someone is homosexual, how does that victimize me? It doesn't! Therefore, it doesn't restrict my freedom, so I have no rigth to restrict theirs...do you follow me? Its not a question of right and wrong, its a question of are the people truly free?

Third, I think whether or not gays should be allowed to adopt is a different issue. By allowing this, we are adding a third party to our mix, and that person should be considered. My personal opinion is that whether or not gays should be allowed to adopt should go with the moral feelings of the majority. That said, I'm open for debate. Another thought is that perhaps whoever puts the child up for adoption should be allowed to specify? I don't know

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#100581 Tue, 17 May 05 06:59 PM

I don't really understand how anyone can find a member of the same sex attractive. That just seems weird because marriage is supposed to be between a male and a female, hence Adam and Eve. I am trying to debate this issue and I need some opposing views to same-sex marriages that don't involve religion. Any replyers?

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