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Swampy
#60844 Sat, 11 Dec 04 09:11 PM
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I'd like to expand the topic of the ability to mimic another language. As said, people with "strong" native language like russian are noted for their "bad" pronunciation. That's because the vowels are all long and strongly pronunced. I am happy to boast that my native language - lithuanian - possesed lots of kinds of pronunciations, comprising short and long vowels, both strong and rolling R sounds, and almost every known sound (with the exception of nose sounds like /ng/).
Also there is one more point about learning foreign language. It is the structure of sentences. People of my language usually make a lot of non-english sentences, because lithuanian is noted for the freedom of sentence structure (that means you can put the words in any manner, and it still makes sense). But for example, the english construction "I find someone attractive" does not make any sense translated to lithuanian, however in french it's all the damn same ("je trouve quelque-un sympa" or so).
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Dr. Pepper
#62946 Wed, 22 Dec 04 07:36 PM
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Hi, dudes (h). I am a new member here. And I found your forum on Google. I came to the US about a year ago and before that, I lived in Ukraine. Now the weird thing is (and I'm not bragging here) that now, I almost don't have any accent whatsoever, and in fact, I'm even learning some British. I'm not really an expert in English accents, so every British I hear is different.
But, anyways, my problem is, I really can't understand, say, Ozzy or Welsh people. Is it just me or is there something else too?
Thanks, guys...
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#63558 Mon, 27 Dec 04 12:59 AM
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accent is most butefull thing,I speak 3 leangviges and I am very prood of my accent and do not try to cover I am not an american i do not wont to be and do not wont to hide my accent.Can any american speak my leangvige????????????????? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sorry for my grammar I learn english by my self with no scooling
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ihavenoname
#63694 Mon, 27 Dec 04 07:13 PM
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Why people would want to eliminate accents:
-- Social stigma
There is much stigma associated with accents, depending on where you are or what accents we're talking about. The problem is accent draws too much attention to itself. Rather than listening to what you have to say, people focus on how you say it. It's also very easy to earn labels with an outlandish accent. Titles like 'redneck', 'foreigner', 'FOB', 'that guy with a Spanish accent' are not very pleasant, especially when you only want to fit in. It's true that discrimination is all too common, but speech, second in importance only to appearance, is something that can be changed. And that's all that matters.
Accent is sort of like criminal background; nice people try not to be mean about it, but everyone has their own prejudices and you can't change that.
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unforgetta2000
#63722 Mon, 27 Dec 04 09:46 PM
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you cant speak as an english cos u are not an english.. am i right?
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#63767 Tue, 28 Dec 04 05:52 AM
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People have many reasons for wanting to reduce their accent. The most common reason I hear for wanting to reduce an accent is so they can interact more effectively and efficently with co-workers, customers, clients, etc. in the workplace. I should know - this is what I do for a living!
If someone has an accent but others do not have a difficult time understanding them, then there is no need to address the accent. Yes, it can be charming. However, if listeners frequently have to ask the speaker to repeat, this is frustrating both to the listener as well as the speaker. With improved communication, work productivity improves and employers like this!
Often times, companies will pay for accent modification training out of their training budgets. If you want to find a certified and licensed speech-language pathologist in your area who specializes in accent modification go to www.corspan.org. This site has a listing of SLPs (Speech Language Pathologists) mostly in the US, but some abroad also. Corspan is a non-profit organization.
Good luck!
Barb Christensen, MA, CCC-SLP
Corspan President 2004
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#64573 Sat, 01 Jan 05 05:36 AM
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What about an accent like a "new york" accent? Or a "sourthern" accent? How would one get rid of those? WOuld it be more difficult?
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#64879 Mon, 03 Jan 05 02:28 AM
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how to get rid of accent?
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Barbcslp
#64900 Mon, 03 Jan 05 04:47 AM
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Yes, certainly, speech-language pathologists (SLPs) can help lessen a strong New York or southern dialect. It is not necessarily more difficult than a foreign accent to change - once you learn the specific characteristics of the dialect and how it differs from the standard American English dialect.
An SLP would first do a detailed speech analysis to find out what you were doing correctly and what you were doing incorrectly with your speech. They would access your intonation, inflections, stress, pitch, individual sounds, rate, vocal projection, etc. Then they would teach you how to improve your speech.
Success rates for changing your speech are highly dependent upon how much you practice the material. You are changing very intricate habits that you have followed for a very long time. It will take time to change.
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