How to get rid of accent?

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Anonymous  #286838  Sun, 29 Oct 06 03:15 AM

I can't undersatnd you americans thinkinking yours is the best, while the rest of the world sees it difrenely.

Joe catani

  
Grammar Geek  #286847  Sun, 29 Oct 06 04:04 AM
Joe, I don't know why you think that about Americans. Most Americans I know really enjoy the way other accents sound, and when you consider that there are dozens of American accents as well, you comment doesn't hold water. So - do you have any advice for the original poster?
  
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Anonymous  #287535  Mon, 30 Oct 06 06:57 PM

yo guys!

i've read all your comments...and i gotta say i've lost any hope to learn english...reading or hearing how others talk kinda depresses me cos i realize that i'm very bad at it, that i can't speak at all. nobody can understand me, some people make fun of me when i speak- my pronunciation is ridiculous, my grammar sucks.  i had english classes in high school for 4 years but that was long ago....i've forgotten everything.

now i need to start from the beginning Sad [:(] well...maybe not from the beginning-beginning but i'm there.

i'm a self-study so it's much more difficult...because lots of times i have no clue whether i pronounce a word correctly or not.

anyways...i am not going to give up cos i really want to learn plus i love english! especially amercian english which sounds the best in my opinion. i watch movies, talk with a friend from the states on yahoo every now and then...but i'm always scared to talk on the mic...so we type. some kind of psychological barrier  doesn't allow me to talk on the mic ;/ i'm too ashamed even though i know he would not laugh cos foreign accents ain't anything  new to him.

i know complaining won't help so i'm sorry to bother u all...wish me luck in my self-studying! i'll keep my fingers crossed for u guys too.

take care

kam

.P.S i forgot to say that i'm from europe (poland).

  
Englishuser  #287554  Mon, 30 Oct 06 08:14 PM

Hi kam,

i gotta say i've lost any hope to learn english...reading or hearing how others talk kinda depresses me cos i realize that i'm very bad at it, that i can't speak at all.

Your English is not as bad as you may think; judging by your written English you seem to know the language pretty well.

people make fun of me when i speak- my pronunciation is ridiculous

Who are these people?

i'm a self-study so it's much more difficult...because lots of times i have no clue whether i pronounce a word correctly or not.

It would be good for you to buy a good pronouncing dictionary or a good learner's dictionary where you could look up the pronunciation of unfamiliar words. Make sure you know the phonetics or the respelling system used in your dictionary.

plus i love english!

That's excellent! I hope you will never lose your interest in English!

talk with a friend from the states on yahoo every now and then...but i'm always scared to talk on the mic...so we type.

It would be very good for you to talk to this friend of yours. However, I do understand how you feel, and if I were you, I might start off listening to Americans talking in films, on the radio, and so on, and then imitate them. Later on, when you gain more confidence, you would feel at ease talking to native speakers.

wish me luck in my self-studying!

I wish you the best of luck! Remember: learning a language is never impossible - all you have to do is to study eagerly enough!

Englishuser

  
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Anonymous  #307413  Tue, 26 Dec 06 03:07 PM

K, so i guess its alredy been discussed but im a lazy *** and i didnt want to read all 7 pages because there was too mutch text.

And heres my problem. I speak with an accent. Mostly it doesnt bother me because it helps me find jobs and not being fired right away after management finds out what a whack im (im gonna keep my accent for that part lol). It also helped me once to convince police not to arrest me. But in social events when i meet people for the first time ever I hate having the same conversation over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. Questions like: What kind of accent is that? Are u German? or Are u Polish? always come up in the conversation and every time i have to talk about where i come from or how it was back then. It just gets me ***. I want to have better conversation than explaining the same thing every time. I understand that people like knowledge but they could learn it from somebody else who doesnt mind. Yet I do. and im tired of that ***. Maybe Im not the most social guy ever unless I know the person for a bit. But if I do know someone for more than 2 days im being social with them.

So how do I help myself and speak without an accent with an accent from Toronto?

  
Marvin A.  #307446  Tue, 26 Dec 06 05:19 PM
 Anonymous wrote:

yo guys!

i've read all your comments...and i gotta say i've lost any hope to learn english...reading or hearing how others talk kinda depresses me cos i realize that i'm very bad at it, that i can't speak at all. nobody can understand me, some people make fun of me when i speak- my pronunciation is ridiculous, my grammar sucks.  i had english classes in high school for 4 years but that was long ago....i've forgotten everything.

now i need to start from the beginning Sad [:(] well...maybe not from the beginning-beginning but i'm there.

i'm a self-study so it's much more difficult...because lots of times i have no clue whether i pronounce a word correctly or not.

anyways...i am not going to give up cos i really want to learn plus i love english! especially amercian english which sounds the best in my opinion. i watch movies, talk with a friend from the states on yahoo every now and then...but i'm always scared to talk on the mic...so we type. some kind of psychological barrier  doesn't allow me to talk on the mic ;/ i'm too ashamed even though i know he would not laugh cos foreign accents ain't anything  new to him.

i know complaining won't help so i'm sorry to bother u all...wish me luck in my self-studying! i'll keep my fingers crossed for u guys too.

take care

kam

.P.S i forgot to say that i'm from europe (poland).



@Kam:

Your written English is quite good!  You certainly sound very fluent and competent.  But, inexplicably, you, like many other foreigners, wrote your message in AOLspeak.  I've noticed that many beginning English speakers that post messages on forums use the same style of writing on forums that they would use to chat with their buddies on Instant Messenger.  That style instantly labels you as either a beginner at English or a 12-year old.  It's funny because 90% of beginners make this same mistake on forums, no matter what country they're from.  It's as if their own language doesn't have capitalization, or something.  So, here are my criticisms.  If you follow them, you're written English, will improve dramatically.  Remember, practice other forms of written English, not just Instant Messenger.

"yo guys"
This is a very non-standard stigmatized greeting, that used to be used by teenagers when they wanted to sound "cool".  Now it's rather obsolete, and sounds rather comical.  I would change it to "Hey guys", if you want a better sounding informal greeting.

"i've"
In English, "I" is *always* capitalized.  The only place it isn't capitalized is on Instant Messenger.  On forums, it's always capitalized.

"gotta"
Not a real word.  It's from "got to".  Replace it with "have to" or "must" when writing.

"sucks"
Mostly used by 12-year olds.

"cos"
I don't think this is ever used by native speakers.  Most native speakers if trying to express [ kVz ] (from "because") would tend to write "cuz" because it's spelled like it sounds.  "Cos" is an abbreviation for "cosine", and when you're using it for "because" implies it should be pronounce [ kOs ] , which to a native English speaker sounds absolutely nothing like [ kVz ] .  Remember "s" and "z" are separate sounds in English at the end of words.  But remember this is only appropriate on AIM.  On a forum, just use "because"--it's not that much harer to type.

"ain't"
Hmm.  Whom are you learning your English from anyway?  Southerners?  People from the African-American cultural group?  This is a highly stigmatized word in English.

"u"
Spell it out!  "u" is only used on Instant Messenger...really...

"u all"
There is no second person singular/plural distinction in English.  Use "you".  If you absolutely must make a distinction, don't pick the Southern/Texas version.  Use "you guys", which is used in the North and the West.

".P.S."
Should be P.S.

  
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Grammar Geek  #307456  Tue, 26 Dec 06 06:07 PM
Marvin has some good advice, but I disagree that "you all" is worse that "you guys." Stick with just "you" (but I find "y'all" in a true Southern accend just fine - it's only when it's put on by someone not Southern that it's awful). Worst of all is "youz guyz" (said, not written).
  
Anonymous  #313175  Tue, 09 Jan 07 07:59 PM
to speak like a normal english
  
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