soochu  +  50174 Wed, 13 Oct 04 04:34 AM Please see the sentence: The test applies only to the apparatus, other than a speaker, with a mass greater than 47kg. I don't understand the phrase "other than a speaker". Does that mean that the mass of the apparatus doesn't include the speaker whether the apparatus has a speaker or not. Right? TKS. ^_^ soochu Joined on Tue, Feb 3 2004 China New Member 50 one life, one ideal

	CalifJim  +  50183 Wed, 13 Oct 04 06:09 AM Can you give us more context? "speaker" or "beaker"? Thanks. CalifJim Joined on Mon, Aug 2 2004 California Veteran Member 22,392 "There are no facts, only interpretations" - Nietzsche

	soochu  +  50192 Wed, 13 Oct 04 06:50 AM The following is the text: 19 DU Stability and mechanical hazards Revised 19 effective July 1, 2004 Apparatus having a mass exceeding 7 kg shall have adequate stability. In addition, the stability shall be ensured when legs or stands supplied by the manufacturer are fitted. Compliance is checked by the tests of 19.1, and 19.2, 19.2.1 and 19.2.2. Apparatus whose functionality requires it to be fastened in place is not required to be subjected to these tests, and the tests in 19.2.1 and 19.2.2 apply only to: – apparatus with a direct view CRT having a diagonal dimension of 48 cm or greater, or apparatus, other than a speaker, with a mass greater than 47 kg, or – apparatus, other than a speaker with a mass of 25 kg or more, having a height of 1 m or more, or – apparatus with a mass of 25 kg or more in combination with a supplied or recommended cart or stand with a total height of 1 m or more. During the tests in 19.1, 19.2 and 19.2.1, the apparatus shall not overbalance. It's the speaker. soochu

	CalifJim  +  50325 Thu, 14 Oct 04 02:52 AM Thanks for the clarification. other than a speaker means but not a speaker. Hope that helped! CalifJim

	Wai_Wai  +  50327 Thu, 14 Oct 04 03:12 AM Other than: 1. except eg: The journey was a bit short, but other than that it was perfectly fine. 2. (not)... different(ly) from I've never known him behave other than selfishly (= he only behaves selfishly) I've never seen this star other than very trendy-dressed (= the star always dress fashionably) Wai_Wai Joined on Mon, Sep 27 2004 Full Member 125 I am NOT a native English speaker. Correct me if I make any mistake. Any comment is perfectly welcome. One idea: I advocate acronyms used at a min because: - difficulty to...

	soochu  +  50334 Thu, 14 Oct 04 04:20 AM Thank you CalifJim and Wai Wai for your help. Now another question exists. It said "other than A SPEAKER" not "the speakers". How to understand the "a speaker"? If the apparatus has two speakers. soochu

	CalifJim  +  50344 Thu, 14 Oct 04 05:30 AM "apparatus other than a speaker" = "any apparatus you choose, provided that the chosen apparatus is not a speaker" They are talking about an apparatus that is not a speaker. They are not talking about an apparatus that has one , two, or any number of speakers. Be careful about the difference between "has" and "is": The apparatus is a speaker. The apparatus is not a speaker. vs The apparatus has a speaker. The apparatus does not have a speaker. CalifJim Difference Between

	soochu  +  50360 Thu, 14 Oct 04 06:43 AM Oh, I got it. I see. I garbled the "have" and "is". I am sorry. :( HA, now I can understand it. Thank you very much. soochu