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Anonymous  +  380584 Sun, 17 Jun 07 10:01 AM

Hello everybody,

I have a question that vexes me for not so long.

He arrived home safe and sound.

Does it mean that he was safe before he arrived and he continued to be in a state of safety afterwards? To me it means he got in a state of safety exactly at the time of his arrival onwards.

Opinions?

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1. He arrived home so(=with the result that, in such a way as to end in) that he was safe.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=so&r=66

16, so = "in such a way as to end in"

18, so = "with the result that"

2. He arrived home safe.

Is there even a slight difference between #1 and #2?

Thanks a lot in advance

Yoong Liat  +  380591 Sun, 17 Jun 07 10:29 AM
 Anonymous wrote:

Hello everybody,

I have a question that vexes me for not so long.

He arrived home safe and sound. (Same meaning as the sentence #2.)

16, so = "in such a way as to end in"

18, so = "with the result that"

2. He arrived home safe. safely.

Is there even a slight difference between #1 and #2? (They have the same meaning.)

 

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Stannum  +  380593 Sun, 17 Jun 07 10:32 AM

G'day Anon,

To arrive home safe and sound has nothing to do with his mode of arrival rather it is a comment on his person.

He is safe (no longer in danger) and sound (not injured or wounded).

It sounds like a phrase of military origin that has crept into mainstream use.

STannum

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Maya2  +  380594 Sun, 17 Jun 07 10:32 AM

hello Liat,

Both safe and safely work.

He arrived safe -- safe is a subject comlement

He arrived safely -- safely, an adv,  modifies arrived,

Thanks, anyway

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Yoong Liat  +  380605 Sun, 17 Jun 07 11:32 AM
 Maya2 wrote:

hello Liat,

Both safe and safely work.

He arrived safe -- safe is a subject comlement

He arrived safely -- safely, an adv,  modifies arrived,

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Yankee  +  380633 Sun, 17 Jun 07 12:52 PM
Hi Anon

"Safe and sound" is an idiom which means 'unhurt' or 'unharmed'.  Your sentence refers to his unhurt state at the time of of his arrival. It tells you that he was not hurt as he was traveling home.  Your sentence says nothing about what happened after he arrived home.

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Anonymous, 2 yr 162 days ago

Hi

I initiated the thread.

Thanks for your answers.

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1. He arrived home being safe

2. He arrived home safe.

3. He arrived home so that he was safe.

4. He arrived home in such a way as to end in a state of safety.

5. He arrived home with the result that he was safe.

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2 = 3 = 4 = 5 ≠ 1; do you agree?

nona the brit  +  380701 Sun, 17 Jun 07 03:19 PM

Only 2 sounds like a natural sentence, so I'm not sure that looking at the others really helps.

But no, I don't think they all mean the same thing. Some show that the journey home was safe, others that he is is safe now he is home.

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Yoong Liat  +  380718 Sun, 17 Jun 07 04:11 PM
 Nona The Brit wrote:

Only 2 sounds like a natural sentence, so I'm not sure that looking at the others really helps.

2. He arrived home safe.

2 (a) He arrived home safely.

Are both sentences correct?

I thought it should "I arrived home safe and sound", not just 'safe'.

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