Anonymous  +  462283 Wed, 09 Jan 08 03:31 PM Hi, Is is correct English to say "me and my friend" or "my friend and I". When, if ever, do we use "me" first? Anonymous

	Kooyeen  +  462323 Wed, 09 Jan 08 05:26 PM It's ok to use "me" first when it's an object of a verb: They hit me and my friend with a baseball bat. (or ...hit my friend and me with...) When it's the subject, some people don't accept it and say it's odd. In ESL tests it would be considered a mistake too. However, some people find nothing wrong with it, and you can hear it in everyday English: Me and my friend were going to Alabama, and... (but: My friend and me were... is not common) My friend and I were going to Alabama, and... (but: I and my friend were... is not common) That's what I think and how I use "me". Kooyeen Joined on Thu, Dec 22 2005 Italy Senior Member 4,966 Parental Advisory / Explicit Posts Verbs

	Grammar Geek  +  462344 Wed, 09 Jan 08 06:36 PM I tried to post this earlier but I had access issues. Kooyeen is qutie correct, except that "Me and my friend are going" is like fingernails on a chalkboard to me. Anyway, here are my thoughts: It can be correct to say either "my friend and I" or "my friend and me" depending on whether you and your friend are the subjects of the sentence or the objects. My friend and I are going to the mall. He invited both my friend and me. By convention, we put the other person first, but there is nothing wrong with saying "He invited both me and my friend." If you say "I and my friend are going to the mall" it will sound off to most natives. Grammar Geek Joined on Tue, Jan 10 2006 Veteran Member 19,650 Barbara, who answers in American English. My housekeeping skills attest to the truth of the second law of thermodynamics: Left to themselves, things get more and more random!

	Rotter  +  462404 Wed, 09 Jan 08 10:24 PM In English and many other languages, you place the other party first. My wife and I are ... My girlfriend and I are ... My friend and I are ... You and I are idiots/intellectuals. This is to pay some respect or rather give priority to the other party. Rotter Joined on Sun, Jul 24 2005 Japan Regular Member 655 Я люблю российских девочек.

	Grammar Geek  +  462438 Thu, 10 Jan 08 12:53 AM  Dido wrote: The British Queen always says "My husband and I" and my British friends usually make jokes about it Why is that funny? Grammar Geek Jokes

	Delmobile  +  462519 Thu, 10 Jan 08 06:15 AM GG, I am ashamed to admit that I say "me and..." all the time as a subject. (Of course, I LIVE in Alabama.) It's not that I don't "know" better, it's just that in some contexts the right way sounds so stuffy to my ear. However, there is never any excuse for "between you and I." Delmobile Joined on Wed, Jan 2 2008 Contributing Member 1,076

	Grammar Geek  +  462646 Thu, 10 Jan 08 01:38 PM  Delmobile wrote: However, there is never any excuse for "between you and I." Ugh! Grammar Geek

	Kooyeen  +  462715 Thu, 10 Jan 08 04:40 PM  Delmobile wrote: GG, I am ashamed to admit that I say "me and..." all the time as a subject. It's not that I don't "know" better, it's just that in some contexts the right way sounds so stuffy to my ear. Yeah! Whoo-hoo, you rock! I love you! Ok, sorry for my enthusiasm... that was too much, LOL Seriously, I'm glad to read that someone says "me" as subject all the time and it does sound good to them... Because everytime I saw learners ask about it (me included), the use of "me" as subject was treated like it was the most odd and childish expression on earth, just used by unducated people. So I just couldn't understand why I was hearing that all the time. Kooyeen