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Angliholic  +  435906 Sun, 28 Oct 07 11:56 AM

I doubt that/whether/if he'll come.

I doubt that/whether/if it was what he wanted.

I do not doubt that/if/whether he will succeed.

Which conjunction in the above samples should follow the verb doubt and why? This is confusing me when I use doubt in my wording. Is there a rule of thumb or something that I can go by? Thanks.

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Marius Hancu  +  435909 Sun, 28 Oct 07 12:13 PM
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QUESTION
How can i explain to my students when to use 'if' or 'whether' -- for example, when they are interchangeable and when they are not. Is there a specific rule that governs the usage?


GRAMMAR'S RESPONSE
According to the New York Public Library's Writer's Guide to Style and
Usage, "if" and "whether" are "interchangeable as long as the meaning
is clear and the construction is sensible." I don't find that
particularly helpful, myself, but that guide then goes on to say that
either "if" or "whether" can be used after such verbs as ask, doubt,
hear, and know: "Did you ask if/whether we had to be present to win?"
and that "whether" is considered the more formal of the two. "Whether"
is preferred at the beginning of a sentence to introduce a noun
clause: "Whether he had a chance to win the election was a subject of
considerable debate."

Authority: New York Public Library Writer's Guide to Style and Usage
HarperCollins: New York. 1994. Cited with permission. p. 72.

http://grammar.ccc.commnet.edu/grammar/grammarlogs3/grammarlogs470.htm
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Angliholic  +  435928 Sun, 28 Oct 07 12:35 PM

Thanks, Marius, for the clear and helpful explanation and the links.

Based on your reply, which conjunction should I use in the base sentences respectively?

Marius Hancu  +  435933 Sun, 28 Oct 07 12:43 PM
IMO:
that: if you just want to point out a single possibility/outcome
whether: if you want to point out two contrasting choices (whether or not)

Google hits:
888 for "doubt if he'll"
8,420 for "doubt whether he'll"
30,200 for "doubt that he'll"

Marius Hancu  +  435940 Sun, 28 Oct 07 12:52 PM
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If and whether

It's  good editorial practice to distinguish between these two words.

Use if for a conditional idea, whether for an alternative or a possibility.

Let me know if you'll be coming
means that I want to hear from you only if you're coming.

But
Let me know whether you'll be coming
means that I want to hear from you about your  plans one way or another.

Garner, Modern American Usage, p. 422
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Marius Hancu, 2 yr 24 days ago
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Marius Hancu, 2 yr 24 days ago
Also, try a search at this site (top right Search box) with
whether if
there are many good threads.

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