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Inchoateknowledge  #297769  Sun, 26 Nov 06 04:08 PM

A: 'We will not be in time for the train.'

BA: 'I suppose not.'

or

BB: 'I do not suppose so.'

Do BA and BB mean that they do not think so, either?

One more question:

If you did not have any help, no grammar site addresses or books, only Google, how would you find the answer to this question?

What would you write in the search field in Google?

I hope you get me.

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Diamondrg  #297774  Sun, 26 Nov 06 05:05 PM

You can make a general search using Google like this:

"I suppose not" = 255.000

"I don't suppose so" = 793

then you can make a restricted but more reliable search like this:

"I suppose not" site:nytimes.com = 22

"I don't suppose so" site:nytimes.com = 0

This search generally does not indicate grammatical correctness or incorrectness, but gives an idea about the frequency of the phrase.

Now you know that "I suppose not" is used more than "I don't suppose so". 

  
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Inchoateknowledge  #297779  Sun, 26 Nov 06 05:11 PM

Hi,

I know that "I do not suppose so" is correct; what it means in the context I am not sure, though.

thanks

  
Diamondrg  #297783  Sun, 26 Nov 06 05:23 PM

With the verbs suppose, imagine and expect we can make negative forms in two ways:

subject + verb + not // subject + do not + verb + so

I suppose not. // I don't suppose so.

I imagine not. // I don't imagine so.

I expect not. // I don't expect so.

The Heinemann English Grammar

Grammars give them as answers to questions, not negative sentences.

- 'Do you think Kate has been invited to the party?' 'I suppose so.'

English Grammar in Use

- 'Is she ill?' 'I don't think so.'

the Heinemann English Grammar

The context in your sentence is an unusual one.

  
Inchoateknowledge  #297784  Sun, 26 Nov 06 05:28 PM

Smile [:)]

Hi again,

A: 'We will not be in time for the train.'

B: 'I suppose not.' = we will not be in time ..., or we will be in time ... ?

B: 'I do not suppose so.' = we will not be in time ..., or we will be in time ... ?

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CalifJim  #297981  Mon, 27 Nov 06 06:02 AM
We will not be on time.
I suppose not.  =  I suppose the same as you, namely, that we will not be on time. = I don't suppose so. = I assume you are right. = I suppose.[!!!]  = I suppose so. [!!!]

CJ

  
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Inchoateknowledge  #297996  Mon, 27 Nov 06 06:40 AM

Hi CJ

Thanks for confirming my assumption.

  
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